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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 3:51 pm
So I always bake my fish instead of cooking it in a pot.

I put it into a bekele and bake it on 400 or so for 2 hours.

The taste is delicious and I love the practicality of it but I always have this issue that it gets these white puffy things.

I wonder if I am missing something or anyone has advice on how to avoid it.
Thanks!

I'll post a Pic

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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 3:53 pm
I also bake my salmon and sometimes it gets these white fatty bits too. I think it needs to be fully submerged in the sauce so it shouldn’t happen.
We don’t mind the white fat, it actually means it’s a good quality fish.
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 3:56 pm
I don't know what a bekele is but sounds like you're really overcooking it. At 400, salmon should be done in about 18 minutes. If it's very thick, maybe 25 minutes. 2 hours, I can't even imagine how overcooked that would be!
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Brit in Israel  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 3:57 pm
The white comes from when it starts getting overcooked....
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internationalma




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 3:58 pm
Fish cooked very fast.
To get the salmon to real ease the white stuff before , you put the fish with lemon juice and salt for a bit in the fridge then you cook it .
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:00 pm
amother Yolk wrote:
I don't know what a bekele is but sounds like you're really overcooking it. At 400, salmon should be done in about 18 minutes. If it's very thick, maybe 25 minutes. 2 hours, I can't even imagine how overcooked that would be!


It cooks in water.

When I bake it for dinner it's about 19-21 minutes depending on the oven I use.

But this is the regular shabbos fish with lots of water.
It takes about an hour for it to come to a boil in the oven.
In any case the taste is divine and everyone loves my fish.

My question is about aesthetics.
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:01 pm
Two hours is way too long even at 250. Salmon slices are baked in 20 minutes at 350 or in half an hour at 325.
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:01 pm
internationalma wrote:
Fish cooked very fast.
To get the salmon to real ease the white stuff before , you put the fish with lemon juice and salt for a bit in the fridge then you cook it .


Interesting. I am going to try this.
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imaima




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:02 pm
amother OP wrote:
So I always bake my fish instead of cooking it in a pot.

I put it into a bekele and bake it on 400 or so for 2 hours.

The taste is delicious and I love the practicality of it but I always have this issue that it gets these white puffy things.

I wonder if I am missing something or anyone has advice on how to avoid it.
Thanks!

I'll post a Pic



They make no difference in a taste. It’s not really big deal for me


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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:03 pm
amother Yolk wrote:
I don't know what a bekele is but sounds like you're really overcooking it. At 400, salmon should be done in about 18 minutes. If it's very thick, maybe 25 minutes. 2 hours, I can't even imagine how overcooked that would be!

Yes came to say this as well
You need 25 mins tops no longer than that
Those white things come out when it’s overcooked
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mom2dkay




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:03 pm
Turn over the slices, skin side up.
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:05 pm
mom2dkay wrote:
Turn over the slices, skin side up.


I used to bake it that way.
Wait why did I stop?
I can't recall.
Did it eliminate the white foam? I mamash can't remember.

Thanks for this! I'll try it too.
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:06 pm
amother Clover wrote:
Yes came to say this as well
You need 25 mins tops no longer than that
Those white things come out when it’s overcooked


I can tell by the onions that they aren't cooked before 2 hours.
Have you tried baking fish in lots of water for 25 minutes?
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  Brit in Israel




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:06 pm
amother OP wrote:
It cooks in water.

When I bake it for dinner it's about 19-21 minutes depending on the oven I use.

But this is the regular shabbos fish with lots of water.
It takes about an hour for it to come to a boil in the oven.
In any case the taste is divine and everyone loves my fish.

My question is about aesthetics.


My mother cooks salmon in cold water, once the water boils it only needs 3 mins of actual cooking in that water -maybe 5-8 mins in an oven, she does it on a stove. It will continue cooking if you leave it in the hot water out the oven.
She was told this by a chef, and every week we had soft delicious fish, unless the person in charge would forget to turn it off and then the fish looked like your photo....
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:12 pm
Brit in Israel wrote:
My mother cooks salmon in cold water, once the water boils it only needs 3 mins of actual cooking in that water -maybe 5-8 mins in an oven, she does it on a stove. It will continue cooking if you leave it in the hot water out the oven.
She was told this by a chef, and every week we had soft delicious fish, unless the person in charge would forget to turn it off and then the fish looked like your photo....


Ok I don't like that taste. My mother used to make that type of fish.
It has a very rubbery taste.

I started cooking my fish for 2 hours and it has this soft buttery taste.
Then I switched to baking it.

I am baking it for so many years I can't recall if I had this situation when I cooked it.
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ladYdI  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:13 pm
You can easily scrape away the white stuff with a plastic spoon while it’s still warm
I heard that it’s fat
It tastes good
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:15 pm
amother OP wrote:
I can tell by the onions that they aren't cooked before 2 hours.
Have you tried baking fish in lots of water for 25 minutes?

I cover with a bit of water not as much as you and do the salt/lemon juice thing and it comes out super tender and yummy
I think it would also go well with a diced veggie sauce (tomato/colored peppers/basil/spices) or a mayo or pesto based sauce.
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  ladYdI




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:15 pm
ladYdI wrote:
You can easily scrape away the white stuff with a plastic spoon while it’s still warm
I heard that it’s fat
It tastes good

To add, I put all ingredients in pan (aka bekele in Yiddish!) except for the fish.
Once water boils and onions a little soft, like after an hour I add the salmon for 40 mins
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:16 pm
I also very tightly wrap the salmon in foil so the steam doesn’t go out
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amother
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Post Tue, Oct 22 2024, 4:26 pm
Ok hey I think that this is it!
I think that when I cooked my fish I used to cook the sauce first and then add the salmon when the water was boiling.

I guess I will have to crawl out of my comfort zone and start cooking/baking the sauce first then adding the fish.

Can't just roll it all into the oven and walk away for 2 hours unless it's a shas hadchak. Wink

Thank you everyone.

For now my fish with foam is cooked for the second days.

Starting parshas Noach we are going to have beautiful fish iyh.
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