Contractual obligations

Notsobusy ↓

Fri, Oct 11 2024, 12:44 pm

amother OP wrote:

Okay this was exactly message I was waiting for! This is the feedback I'm getting from them. I'm curious to hear your point of view - is it better to get fired for not showing up on CH? Or working to support your family /learning husband?
I'm not a rav, but I'm struggling to understand why a rav would not allow someone to work if they know that there was a good chance they will lose their job.

And again this is not my decision I'm just an employee in the company that's watching this unfold.

The employee is 100% wrong. If she's a recent BT or giyores, or who didn't know this, or someone who got married after being hired and her husband holds differently than her father did, then she should needs to have a serious conversation with management about the changes she needs to make before yom tov time. I highly doubt that the entire team was unaware of this at the time they were hired.

I've been working for frum companies my entire adult life. Most of them have a rotating schedule for chol hamoed. Most will accommodate if one person needs more time off for a good reason and it won't affect everyone else. But most companies can't afford to close entirely or lose an entire team for the entire chol hamoed.

↑ Notsobusy

Fri, Oct 11 2024, 12:46 pm

amother Plum wrote:

Sounds like this is a very large heimish office in a community where it’s mostly not acceptable to work on chol hamoed (ex Lakewood). This is why there are many “people” that OP feels the need to explain this to. It wasn’t one.

So yes, it is relevant, if you live in a community where most of the community holds as I wrote above.

Many companies in Lakewood are open over chol hamoed and they expect their employees to work at least part of the time.

amother

↑ Peach

Fri, Oct 11 2024, 1:19 pm

amother Plum wrote:

It’s multiple employees. Very community specific.

Let me try once again. 🤷‍♀️

The issue isn’t the need to take off.

The issue is that she lied at the interview and said she didn’t need to take off.

If she had answered truthfully at the interview or even raised the issue well beforehand with a SPECIFIC explanation as to why things had changed, my analysis would have been different.

It is the lying and not the need for time off that is problematic