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Mon, Sep 02 2024, 8:20 pm
Whats the difference between these 3?
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amother
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Mon, Sep 02 2024, 9:28 pm
amother Aquamarine wrote: | https://www.imamother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=575290
There was the exact thread started last week. |
Ye that is my thread. Didn't get qny responses really so posting on the main board.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 6:34 am
amother OP wrote: | Whats the difference between these 3? |
They started out as pretty similar but munkatch has cracked down and started being a lot more selective with who they accept. They are much stricter on both the parents and the boys, but the cheder is better run and the boys are more disciplined. They also attract a diff crowd, as Munkatch is more willi style 'fancier', boys will wear brand name tops etc.
Tt monsey and imrei shefer are very similar, more of an old monsey style crowd. Simpler parents, also a way more diverse crowd. Way easier to get into. However these 2 don't have the best name on the street, they're considered more "bummy" bc they're more lax.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 6:51 am
amother Viola wrote: | They started out as pretty similar but munkatch has cracked down and started being a lot more selective with who they accept. They are much stricter on both the parents and the boys, but the cheder is better run and the boys are more disciplined. They also attract a diff crowd, as Munkatch is more willi style 'fancier', boys will wear brand name tops etc.
Tt monsey and imrei shefer are very similar, more of an old monsey style crowd. Simpler parents, also a way more diverse crowd. Way easier to get into. However these 2 don't have the best name on the street, they're considered more "bummy" bc they're more lax. |
The kids in Munkatch are not fancier, the kids don't wear brand name clothing. This is a wrong assumption.
Do your kids attend this cheider? We are very simple people, as are many families who send to this cheider.
It is so wrong and judgemental to say that the parents of other chadarim are bummy. This is such wrong information!!!
This mother must have agendas against some chadurim, wow! Please don't accept this motzi shem ra- wrong information.
I know several fine ehrliche families who are sending to each of those chadurim- Talmud Toirah Dmonsey and Imrei sheifer.
Most mosdos are full to capacity and won't accept random families. You need to have tons of protectzia, otherwise you send to those who are newer and more accepting. The Rebbi's and hanhala are very frum erlich and give the kids a great chinuch.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 7:04 am
amother Nutmeg wrote: | The kids in Munkatch are not fancier, the kids don't wear brand name clothing. This is a wrong assumption.
Do your kids attend this cheider? We are very simple people, as are many families who send to this cheider.
It is so wrong and judgemental to say that the parents of other chadarim are bummy. This is such wrong information!!!
This mother must have agendas against some chadurim, wow! Please don't accept this motzi shem ra- wrong information.
I know several fine ehrliche families who are sending to each of those chadurim- Talmud Toirah Dmonsey and Imrei sheifer.
Most mosdos are full to capacity and won't accept random families. You need to have tons of protectzia, otherwise you send to those who are newer and more accepting. The Rebbi's and hanhala are very frum erlich and give the kids a great chinuch. |
Ok, so what is the difference between the 3?
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 7:44 am
amother Nutmeg wrote: | The kids in Munkatch are not fancier, the kids don't wear brand name clothing. This is a wrong assumption.
Do your kids attend this cheider? We are very simple people, as are many families who send to this cheider.
It is so wrong and judgemental to say that the parents of other chadarim are bummy. This is such wrong information!!!
This mother must have agendas against some chadurim, wow! Please don't accept this motzi shem ra- wrong information.
I know several fine ehrliche families who are sending to each of those chadurim- Talmud Toirah Dmonsey and Imrei sheifer.
Most mosdos are full to capacity and won't accept random families. You need to have tons of protectzia, otherwise you send to those who are newer and more accepting. The Rebbi's and hanhala are very frum erlich and give the kids a great chinuch. |
I have nothing against any of these chedarim. I just want to give her an honest impression of how these chedarim are viewed. That's why I put bummy in quotes.
And ofc there are different types in all of these places, but munkatch overall is a fancier vibe than the others. Many people prefer that. Nothing wrong with that, it's all a matter of preference.
All of these are excellent chedarim with many great families.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 8:10 am
amother Viola wrote: | I have nothing against any of these chedarim. I just want to give her an honest impression of how these chedarim are viewed. That's why I put bummy in quotes.
And ofc there are different types in all of these places, but munkatch overall is a fancier vibe than the others. Many people prefer that. Nothing wrong with that, it's all a matter of preference.
All of these are excellent chedarim with many great families. |
Bummy is a strong word, very derogatory form, and it's not true. This is what loshon hora and motzi shem ra is.
As explained earlier, the difference of the 3 chadurim- is that it's neutral, TT Dmonsey and Imrei sheifer are more accepting to parents who are relaxed chasidish.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 8:30 am
amother Viola wrote: | I have nothing against any of these chedarim. I just want to give her an honest impression of how these chedarim are viewed. That's why I put bummy in quotes.
And ofc there are different types in all of these places, but munkatch overall is a fancier vibe than the others. Many people prefer that. Nothing wrong with that, it's all a matter of preference.
All of these are excellent chedarim with many great families. |
I send to munkatch and agree very much with what you wrote.
While I am from the much simpler parent body, a lot of parents are 'fancier'. (My kids discuss which father has the cybertruck, who owns pools, summer houses, etc..)
I won't say the word bummy, but all of these chedarim have parents that are considered more "cool".
So even if I don't quite fit in, I am very happy with the place. Well run, great rebbes, and great care. My boys are erlich and learning well BH.
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 9:14 am
amother Pistachio wrote: | I send to munkatch and agree very much with what you wrote.
While I am from the much simpler parent body, a lot of parents are 'fancier'. (My kids discuss which father has the cybertruck, who owns pools, summer houses, etc..)
I won't say the word bummy, but all of these chedarim have parents that are considered more "cool".
So even if I don't quite fit in, I am very happy with the place. Well run, great rebbes, and great care. My boys are erlich and learning well BH. |
I would say the same. I also send to Munkatch and we are very simple, not cool. There are families that are more affluent, there are families that are more relaxed chasidish, and there are some families who are simple and want to send to a cheder that is neutral and let kids be kids. The staff is beyond warm and phenomenal. My kids are having a wonderful cheder experience bh.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 10:23 am
amother Nutmeg wrote: | The kids in Munkatch are not fancier, the kids don't wear brand name clothing. This is a wrong assumption.
Do your kids attend this cheider? We are very simple people, as are many families who send to this cheider.
It is so wrong and judgemental to say that the parents of other chadarim are bummy. This is such wrong information!!!
This mother must have agendas against some chadurim, wow! Please don't accept this motzi shem ra- wrong information.
I know several fine ehrliche families who are sending to each of those chadurim- Talmud Toirah Dmonsey and Imrei sheifer.
Most mosdos are full to capacity and won't accept random families. You need to have tons of protectzia, otherwise you send to those who are newer and more accepting. The Rebbi's and hanhala are very frum erlich and give the kids a great chinuch. |
Calm down. This is not motzi shem ra. It's an open space for people to give their opinions.
My kids are there many years, probably from the beginning.. Yes, some kids do wear brand name tops and it doesn't bother me.
At the end of the day, chinuch is mostly from home and my kids know our values.
I appreciate that they are honest about technology. Something almost every cheder and school makes parents lie about.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 12:19 pm
amother OP wrote: | Ok, so what is the difference between the 3? |
Munkatch is regular neutral chassidish, has the most chassidish crowd of the 3 & the strictest with rules. Imrei shefer attracts more of a modern/chilled chassidish crowd.
Tt dmonsey is still newer and has a younger parent body. A mix of neutral chassidish & more chilled, but not as modern as imrei shefer.
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 4:15 pm
Tnx this is really helpful. Is munkatch hard to get in?
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Tiffanyblue
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 5:55 pm
Tt ans munkach the parent body how I would describe is "not how they grew up". Most of the people sending there are fancier than what they were born into, their parents etc. That is probably why other poster said "bummy".
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amother
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Tue, Sep 03 2024, 6:14 pm
amother Tiffanyblue wrote: | Tt ans munkach the parent body how I would describe is "not how they grew up". Most of the people sending there are fancier than what they were born into, their parents etc. That is probably why other poster said "bummy". |
Same for Imrei shefer and other places. I don't like using that word, but I understood she meant more cool.
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