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amother

Sun, Aug 18 2024, 9:46 pm

My teenage son has started having some out of body experience as he calls it. At certain times of the day he says he feels like he’s not “here”. Like he can be talking to a friend and he suddenly feels like who’s talking? Where are his words coming from? Or his friend can be talking and he’s thinking who’s this person talking to me? I don’t know what to make of this. And I’m having a hard time even understanding it. Can anyone relate ?

amother

Red

Sun, Aug 18 2024, 9:47 pm

He needs a psychiatrist asap.

Frumwithallergies

Sun, Aug 18 2024, 9:51 pm

He needs to speak to a doctor. Some 'out of body' experiences are cause by psychiatric illness, but others can be caused by temporal lobe epilepsy.
Wishing you hazlacha to get a quick diagnosis.

amother

Brunette

Sun, Aug 18 2024, 10:02 pm

It could also be dissociation. Agree speak to a psychiatrist

Chayalle

Sun, Aug 18 2024, 10:13 pm

I would always start with a workup at your pediatrician. Bloodwork, etc....That should always be the first step.

amother

Moonstone ↓

Sun, Aug 18 2024, 10:22 pm

Dissociation

I would call Relief

amother

Rose

Mon, Aug 19 2024, 1:28 am

Sounds like a seizure to me. Reminds me of the "alice in wonderland" seizures I sometimes had as a kid, which I never knew how to explain.

In general it makes more sense to rule out any physical causes before jumping to psychological. I'd go to a neurologist first and have them do an EEG.

Happydance

Mon, Aug 19 2024, 1:33 am

amother OP wrote:

I used to have this often when there was a lot of stimulation around me. Or when I was tired.

BH It had nothing to do with a mental disorder of any kind

I don’t really experience it anymore, likely because I am more in touch with my body and would take a quiet break before getting to that sensory overload place.

Can you help him understand if there is any pattern to when he experiences this?

amother

Gray

Mon, Aug 19 2024, 2:38 am

It's actually fairly common and can be caused by anxiety. Think of it as a form of panic attack.
If healthwise he's ok, you might want to consider getting him a few sessions with a therapist to help him deal with his anxiety.
A good therapist will also help him plan to get better sleep and nutrition so he doesn't get depleted, which often leads to these episodes.
This is unfortunately common in yeshiva boys, who have intense schedules. In elite type yeshivas, even the top performers can have high levels of anxiety.

amother

↑ Moonstone

Mon, Aug 19 2024, 8:52 am

OP, if you want to figure out if it's dissociation or not see if he can come out of it. When it is happening have him feel his feet on the ground and touch and interlace his fingers gently or look around the room a little. See if it lessens the dissociation. It may not completely break it but if it lessens a little then it's likely dissociation.

amother

Babyblue

Mon, Aug 19 2024, 9:06 am

I’ve had similar as a late teen and early 20’s.
For me it was panic attacks or fainting. It’s on the verge of fainting. Where u slowly feel your body leaving you. And you feel like everything is far away, hard to explain. I would sometimes faint and sometimes come out of it. Like when I felt that I would put my head between my knees or lift my legs up to try to get blood flow to my head.

amother

Yolk

Mon, Aug 19 2024, 9:07 am

amother OP wrote:

It could be a simple sensory issue.
Don't stress, see what the dr says first.

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