Mind Orientation - dyslexia program

amother

Heather ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 6:02 pm

I know someone who went there and was very successful for English reading, not as much for Hebrew reading.
They use the Davis method. I'm trained in this method as well. It's a fabulous method that works for many children. I'm also trained in Orton, Wilson and LiPS, so I'm not biased in any way.
The "learn to read in 5 days" is a gimmick. The initial part of the program teaches the child to focus their "mind's eye" and become fluent in all alphabet. This part takes 5 days and many see a difference after the intense week. Yet, children require 3-18 months of continued work (after the 5 days) to master the trigger words. Upon completion, many children will be very successful in reading.

amother

↑ Heather ↓

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 6:56 am

oohlala wrote:

Please read this review by a very reputable source: https://www.spelfabet.com.au/2.....51mWg

I haven't read through the entire thing... Just want to say as follows: Every child responds to different methodologies as every child's reading disability stems from a different source.
I am trained in many methodologies and generally mix and match based on the child's specific needs. It is always best to get evaluated by an OPEN-MINDED professional. (Open-minded in various ways. If you'll be evaluated by someone trained only in Davis- they'll recommend Davis as the go-to solution. If you'll be evaluated by someone trained in LiPS- LiPS will be recommended)

Depending on what's hindering your child's reading progress, they'll need intervention accordingly.
For instance, children with auditory processing difficulties might do best with LiPS, children with poor phonemic awareness, might do best with Wilson, and children with visual processing difficulties might do best with Davis. (might is bolded, because there are many other factors involved...) This doesn't mean that one program is better than another. Every child needs something else and many children have demonstrated progress following each of the programs listed above. Yet, it's not a one-size-fits-all... It's very specific and the program must match the student's specific needs.

↑ homemommie120 ↓

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 8:55 am

amother Heather wrote:

You have a point! How do I find someone who's trained and works with different programs that can guide me which program works best for my child?

amother

↑ Heather ↓

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 9:08 am

homemommie120 wrote:

You have a point! How do I find someone who's trained and works with different programs that can guide me which program works best for my child?

It's a difficult call. You can find out about evaluators or reading specialists in your area. Ask them about their training- if they're only trained in one method, skip. If they're trained in various methodology, that would be much better.
I can try to help you out. Where are you located?

amother

Snowflake

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 9:12 am

I took my daughter who had dyslexia to the Guttman Sisters. I couldn't see myself doing the program, but through their consultation they guided me exactly which program/therapists to use and bh it was a success. I highly recommend you reach out to them if you are trying to save time. 718-621-3385 www.handsonotrehab.com

↑ homemommie120 ↓

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 11:08 am

amother Heather wrote:

Upstate ny

↑ oohlala ↓

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 5:40 pm

amother Heather wrote:

I hear your point but I only agree with that as long as the programs are rooted in research. The other programs you mentioned are. The Davis method is not. I have been following the research in reading very closely for several years and it’s clear that systematic and explicit phonics is the way to teach and train the brain. You can argue about whether synthetic or analytic phonics or speech to print vs print to speech, but not phonics vs something else.

amother

↑ Heather ↓

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 7:46 pm

oohlala wrote:

You have a point about the research. Anecdotal isn't worth as much as double-blind peer review. However, there's a LOT of anecdotal research on the Davis method and it has proven to be fruitful for many people when used the right way for the right child.
I'm saying this as someone who is in the field for a long time. I've seen many many cases of dyslexia. I'm trained in many approaches and am well versed.

↑ oohlala ↓

Wed, Aug 07 2024, 8:34 pm

amother Heather wrote:

I would be curious to hear if the gains made lasted or leveled off. The anecdotes tell that kids learn to read in five days…but what happened a few months later? next year? Did the students make gains? Did they learn enough to generalize the code on their own and decode multisyllabic words with ease? What level difficulty books can they read and are they reading fluently enough? These are questions that must be asked.

amother

Jade

Fri, Aug 09 2024, 2:37 pm

Hi,

I read through your conversation and hear your thoughts about going to an evaluator that doesn't follow a specific method because you believe that programs using only one method are biased. I wish that were true at Mind Orientation. I have a 13-year-old daughter who is really struggling in school in many areas. I did take her to an evaluation at Mind Orientation. I was extremely impressed with their professionalism and structure, and was amazed by the honesty of the evaluator. She clearly explained their program to me, and I was amazed at what I heard. However, based on what she observed in my daughter, she did not accept her. She mentioned that my daughter's core problems didn't match the ones Mind Orientation typically works with. As a side note, they have a money-back guarantee so they are careful with the clients they accept. It seemed to me that they do try to accept only those who are a good fit, and an evaluation is definitely worth a try.

Ps. I have still not found the right help for my daughter, so if anyone knows of anything, I would love to hear!

↑ oohlala

Fri, Aug 09 2024, 3:21 pm

amother Jade wrote:

Look into Ebli and reading simplified

amother

↑ Heather

Sat, Aug 10 2024, 9:15 pm

amother Jade wrote:

That's very impressive to hear! If so, it might be worth it for OP to try.
Did she mention what she thinks your daughter's reading difficulties stem from? I can try to guide you from there.

amother

Gold ↓

Mon, Aug 12 2024, 9:58 am

My Aunt sent her 8-year-old daughter to the Mind Orientation program last year.

She saw unbelievable change with her daughter. I just called her up to check if her daughter still has the skills she learned or if she fell back. She said that she is READING BOOKS! and up to class level!

She said that I should point out to mothers that the program is not meant for every struggler out there but if your child is struggling with dyslexia it is worth the leap. She also said that if your child is too young it is not worth to jump into yet being that it takes motivation and understanding from the child.

Much Hatzlacha!