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-> Shabbos, Rosh Chodesh, Fast Days, and other Days of Note
amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:53 am
Disclaimer: if you have allergies or other health conditions that come with dietary restrictions that make the 9 days difficult, THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. This is for those that don't have any limits of what they can eat.
I'm just wondering what the big deal is to end up eating pasta with cheese or pizza every other night for a week (and it really is just a week, since shabbos doesn't count). No, I don't make a habit of cheesy noodles 3 nights a week, but for one week of the year, it doesn't hurt to have cheesy noodles three times. And a night or two of pizza. It's not the healthiest thing, but one week of not the healthiest (again, for those that are otherwise healthy, not talking about medical conditions) a week of it is not so bad. I just don't see the need to go crazy making Shavuos style recipes now. It even seems anyway not so in the spirit of mourning the churban. You can all throw the tomatoes now. At least they'll go well with my cheesy noodles.
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 10:55 am
Mostly the people complaining are dealing with restrictions whether it’s allergies or picky eaters or just don’t feel well after meals like that.
(We have some gluten free people and some dairy free people so we’re working around that)
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 11:24 am
OP ITA. Not that I think one needs to make cheesy noodles all week. Fish is permitted, as are vegan meals. Rice and beans, bread and peanut butter, yogurt and fruit and many other foods are easy enough to prepare if one wishes to watch one's cholesterol or have greater nutritional variety.
There's a concept of naval bir'shut haTorah, which means behaving inappropriately without transgressing the letter of the law. Pigging out at an all-you-can-eat glatt kosher buffet is a classic example. To me, going out to eat at an upscale milchik restaurant, or preparing fancy gourmet milchik meals and festive desserts during the Nine Days, particularly when one doesn't ordinarily do so the rest of the year, is another.
ETA Another example: Deliberately altering learning schedules in order to be able to make a siyum and eat meat during the Nine Days. If you happen to finish a massechet, lovely. But to purposely slow down or speed up regular learning just to be able to make a siyum? Not cricket. And even less cricket, those who didn't do the learning all along but attend just to be able to partake in the meal.
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 11:41 am
I have a heter because health issues to eat meat as long as it was prepared for Shabbat specifically. Heter is because I consistently do this year round including Shabbat and Yom Tov. When I run out of it, I eat eggs and fish. Anonymous because I don’t want to be attacked.
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 11:46 am
I based my meals on not eating white starchy carbs and cheese.
My carbs are zucchini, sweet potato, regular potatoes, quinoa, buckwheat, beans, etc.
Also adding greens and protein (eggs, falafel, fish) to the above
Gotta think out of the box
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 11:46 am
amother Black wrote: | I have a heter because health issues to eat meat as long as it was prepared for Shabbat specifically. Heter is because I consistently do this year round including Shabbat and Yom Tov. When I run out of it, I eat eggs and fish. Anonymous because I don’t want to be attacked. |
I'm nursing and off Dairy because my baby gets an inflamed bowel (visible blood in diapers) when I eat dairy. Dh said halacha is I can eat chicken np, preferred to meat. I don't eat fish, ever.
Of course I feel guilt so I'm going to try to live on eggs and soup etc as much as I can.
But yes, even if you don't want to do the carbs there are always so many options for dairy. Since we have a family full of people that either don't like dairy or are a bit intolerant to it, I generally don't make dairy and I actually used to look forward to the nine days bec I love dairy!
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 1:20 pm
amother OP wrote: | Disclaimer: if you have allergies or other health conditions that come with dietary restrictions that make the 9 days difficult, THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. This is for those that don't have any limits of what they can eat.
I'm just wondering what the big deal is to end up eating pasta with cheese or pizza every other night for a week (and it really is just a week, since shabbos doesn't count). No, I don't make a habit of cheesy noodles 3 nights a week, but for one week of the year, it doesn't hurt to have cheesy noodles three times. And a night or two of pizza. It's not the healthiest thing, but one week of not the healthiest (again, for those that are otherwise healthy, not talking about medical conditions) a week of it is not so bad. I just don't see the need to go crazy making Shavuos style recipes now. It even seems anyway not so in the spirit of mourning the churban. You can all throw the tomatoes now. At least they'll go well with my cheesy noodles. |
Because there are easy ways to not eat junk like that for a week, so why not?
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 1:28 pm
It's a pretty terrible way to eat, whether you have restrictions or not. Nobody's body benefits from eating that way.
My kids would be thrilled if that was our menu for the next week (or forever), but unfortunately for them I believe in respecting our g-d given body by nourishing it with clean, nutrient dense foods.
(Because I take their desires into account I did put pizza and cheesy pasta on the menu, but not every day.)
And no, I don't judge anyone who eats that way, many people seem to be able to get away with it, at least for some time before it catches up with them, but you did ask.
Either way, the 9 days don't make me feel frantic at all. There are so many delicious options out there.
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 6:13 pm
amother Butterscotch wrote: |
Either way, the 9 days don't make me feel frantic at all. There are so many delicious options out there. |
Same here. I serve fleishik on Shabbat and leftovers as long as they last, dairy or pareve the rest of the time, all year round, so the Nine Days are no problem whatsoever, except for "what do I do with the leftover chicken from Shabbat?" (Answer: freeze it.)
I really don't understand people who get in a tizzy about serving meatless meals. Especially in the heat of summer, nobody needs such heavy meals in any event.
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ra_mom
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 6:14 pm
amother OP wrote: | Disclaimer: if you have allergies or other health conditions that come with dietary restrictions that make the 9 days difficult, THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. This is for those that don't have any limits of what they can eat.
I'm just wondering what the big deal is to end up eating pasta with cheese or pizza every other night for a week (and it really is just a week, since shabbos doesn't count). No, I don't make a habit of cheesy noodles 3 nights a week, but for one week of the year, it doesn't hurt to have cheesy noodles three times. And a night or two of pizza. It's not the healthiest thing, but one week of not the healthiest (again, for those that are otherwise healthy, not talking about medical conditions) a week of it is not so bad. I just don't see the need to go crazy making Shavuos style recipes now. It even seems anyway not so in the spirit of mourning the churban. You can all throw the tomatoes now. At least they'll go well with my cheesy noodles. |
Sorry I get sick like that. But BH happy to have had fish, salad and potato. Not complaining, BH we have access to healthy food. But it isn't easy on my stomach to not have what it's used to.
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amother
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Mon, Aug 05 2024, 6:19 pm
I’m on an extremely restrictive diet - not to get skinny - to stay alive. I don’t eat any fleishigs. So this week is yawn .
I made curry and rice
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