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Why do people write ן- or ת- instead of בן/בת for tehillim



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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 07 2024, 6:43 pm
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I feel like I probbably learned this in school at some point but do not remember. Can anyone share?
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BusyBoys




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 07 2024, 6:44 pm
Some opinions consider it sheimos if full name is written out on a paper.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 07 2024, 6:48 pm
I heard that you hope to erase the name soon, when s/he gets better and you’re not supposed to erase a full name. I guess it’s the same idea as shaimos
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 07 2024, 7:08 pm
My husband says there is no source. Similar to bouncing three times after shmona esrei.
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amother
Beige


 

Post Sun, Jul 07 2024, 7:10 pm
Because בן & בת are written on a gravestone & after death.
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ra_mom




 
 
    
 

Post Sun, Jul 07 2024, 7:16 pm
We learned to do this in Bais Yaakov, but as an adult was told there's no source for this and we were taught wrong.
When I type it out I type the full name. When I write it out I still find myself using a dash.
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amother
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Post Sun, Jul 07 2024, 7:17 pm
amother Springgreen wrote:
My husband says there is no source. Similar to bouncing three times after shmona esrei.

Same
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salt




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jul 09 2024, 3:47 am
amother Firethorn wrote:
Same


I always thought 'bouncing' 3 times at end of shmona esreh was instead of the 'kadosh kadosh kadosh" bouncing in kedusha in the chazan's repetition - when you are davening by yourself you do this 'mini' 'zecher le-kedusha" instead.
Just my made up interpretation, didn't get it from any source.

ETA, Ive never seen ben/bat without the b.
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amother
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Post Tue, Jul 09 2024, 4:48 am
salt wrote:
I always thought 'bouncing' 3 times at end of shmona esreh was instead of the 'kadosh kadosh kadosh" bouncing in kedusha in the chazan's repetition - when you are davening by yourself you do this 'mini' 'zecher le-kedusha" instead.
Just my made up interpretation, didn't get it from any source.

ETA, Ive never seen ben/bat without the b.


I believe that's also a misconception and should only be 1, not 3.

ben/bat I understood to be where you would soon erase (like on a chalkboard) and should be sensitive not to erase a person's name
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