S/O Anti Vaxx | Imamother

amother

↑ Daphne ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 8:23 pm

amother Butterscotch wrote:

I went through a whole bunch of these studies. None that I saw were done with the CDC schedule. Almost all of them are done European countries that give a fraction as many vaccines as they give here.

Europe routinely gives the monkeypox vaccine? Even in America only a few groups get the monkeypox vaccine.
And when we go from USA to Europe we have to make sure we have certain vaccines. I think vaccine schedules are pretty routine and similar

amother

↑ Peony

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 8:26 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

So your child never goes in a car because 40,000 Americans die yearly in car accidents, plus many more seriously injured.

Your child is not allowed to swim, or bike because drowning and head Injuries.

Is the above correct?

What's the connection to what I posted?

tulip3 ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:21 pm

amother Stoneblue wrote:

You couldn't possibly have checked the database so I am calling you out for that. There are hundreds and hundreds of trials there so your statement is false. Why don't you actually search, and read thru the protocols first?

If this is how you do research, then that explains the faulty information.

There are no trials with comparing non vaxxed to vaxxed because it's "unethical". If you want to convince all of us to start vaccinating, please find the one trial that does(nt) exist.
I see some comparing different strains or comparing different combinations of vaccines on children, I don't see a vaccinated vs non vaccinated over years kind of study.
If you are in the field, it should be super easy to text or call a colleague or do a quick search.

amother

Khaki ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:25 pm

tulip3 wrote:

https://www.oatext.com/Pilot-c.....n.php

https://journals.sagepub.com/d.....25344

amother

↑ Butterscotch ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:30 pm

amother Khaki wrote:

https://www.oatext.com/Pilot-comparative-study-on-the-health-of-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-6-to-12-year-old-U-S-children.php

https://journals.sagepub.com/d.....25344

For anybody who can't open the links, these studies both show that vaccinated children have worse health outcomes

amother

Acacia

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:44 pm

It’s a slippery slope, because once you believe big pharma is here to hurt you then you can no longer trust them with Tylenol and advil, soon you can’t take antibiotics anymore, after that you need to come to the realization that cancer is a myth to help fund chemotherapeutic companies. Then you slowly open your eyes to realize that the government is trying to make you insterile to save the planet, and you can no longer use their electricity, their water or their internet. After that you come to the conclusion that the schools are just there to make your kids into mini government pawns, and the ez passes are there to keep track of your whereabouts and pretty soon you need to live off grid to be safe.

If that’s your cup of tea then go for it.

amother

↑ Butterscotch ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:47 pm

amother Acacia wrote:

I'm following your reasoning. If you believe in trusting big pharma and the government, I assume you take the covid vax twice a year?

amother

↑ Khaki ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:53 pm

amother Acacia wrote:

I think pharma is there to make money so I make it my business to be an informed consumer. I mostly don't Vax, but have done so on occasion very very selectively. I avoid Tylenol like the plague because it has a poor safety profile, but use advil judiciously. I have an entire arsenal of herbal antibiotics and antivirals for when the need arises, but have used antibiotics on very rare occasions when I I felt it was called for. Most Cancers are caused by lifestyle and environmental factors and we'd all be best off living a lifestyle that gives us the best shot at preventing it. If ch"v one does get sick with it because we live in such a toxic world it's nearly impossible to avoid everything, there are evidence based less toxic options to explore, and unfortunately sometimes chemotherapy is a necessary evil.

amother

↑ Daphne ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:57 pm

amother Khaki wrote:

Interesting that you use Advil, when it has the same contraindications as Tylenol for use during pregnancy. Or do you not use Tylenol because it’s made from fetal cells?

amother

↑ Khaki ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 9:58 pm

amother Daphne wrote:

Interesting that you use Advil, when it has the same contraindications as Tylenol for use during pregnancy. Or do you not use Tylenol because it’s made from fetal cells?

No, I don't use Tylenol because it's extremely toxic to the liver. Even a single dose. Advil is hard on the gut and kidneys, but not nearly as toxic when used sparingly. Advil is contraindicated in pregnancy due to bleeding concerns, not toxicity.

amother

↑ Daphne ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 10:02 pm

amother Butterscotch wrote:

For anybody who can't open the links, these studies both show that vaccinated children have worse health outcomes

Nope. Actually shows the opposite.

Vaccinated children (N=405), combining the partially and fully vaccinated, were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have had chickenpox (7.9% vs. 25.3%, p <0.001; Odds Ratio = 0.26, 95% Confidence Interval: 0.2, 0.4) and whooping cough (pertussis) (2.5% vs. 8.4%, p <0.001; OR 0.3, 95% CI: 0.1, 0.6), and less likely, but not significantly so, to have had rubella (0.3% vs. 1.9%, p = 0.04; OR 0.1, 95% CI: 0.01, 1.1). However, the vaccinated were significantly more likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with otitis media (19.8% vs. 5.8%, p <0.001; OR 3.8, 95% CI: 2.1, 6.6) and pneumonia (6.4% vs. 1.2%, p = 0.001; OR 5.9, 95% CI: 1.8, 19.7). No significant differences were seen with regard to hepatitis A or B, high fever in the past 6 months, measles, mumps, meningitis (viral or bacterial), influenza, or rotavirus (Table 2).
https://www.oatext.com/Pilot-c.....n.php

amother

↑ Daphne ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 10:03 pm

amother Khaki wrote:

And for other reasons too. It’s like you’re picking and choosing and it doesn’t make any sense.

amother

↑ Butterscotch ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 10:06 pm

amother Daphne wrote:

The other study clearly says that vaccinated children are more likely to have ear infections, developmental delays, and asthma. Which is the vaccine injuries we've been talking about the entire time. (My vaccine injured child has all three.)

Nobody's questioning that children vaccinated for chicken pox are less likely to get chickenpox than children who are unvaccinated.

amother

↑ Daphne ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 10:10 pm

amother Butterscotch wrote:

All of those things can also run in families. I’m sure you have relatives who are vaccinated who also have those issues. And you have relatives who aren’t vaccinated who have those issues as well. It’s painful to have a child with developmental delays or asthma or ear infections and it’s so easy to point to vaccines but usually there are other reasons for those things.

amother

Indigo

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 10:26 pm

amother Daphne wrote:

Interesting that you use Advil, when it has the same contraindications as Tylenol for use during pregnancy. Or do you not use Tylenol because it’s made from fetal cells?

huh? what is the source for all of this? Tylenol is not contraindicated in pregnancy.

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 10:41 pm

amother Daphne wrote:

Ear infections and asthma are noted on vaccine inserts. So is autism, SIDS, diabetes, epilepsy...

amother

↑ Butterscotch ↓

Tue, Jun 25 2024, 10:58 pm

amother Daphne wrote:

Possible. It's also possible that vaccine injuries run in families. I don't have unvaccinated relatives who have these issues. Only the vaccinated ones.