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amother
Pearl
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 Fri, May 31 2024, 6:01 am
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ask a makeup artist how you can cover it
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amother
Aconite
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Fri, May 31 2024, 6:12 am
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Some principals care more about appearances of students to others than about the overall mesage they are sending to the student about love of learning, etc. It seems like the principal cares more about disciplining students than about caring for students. Hope your daughter isn't negatively affected by this , like some people I know whose school cared more about the outside of the student than their inner pnimiyus
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amother
Yarrow
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Fri, May 31 2024, 6:16 am
Kat von d line is known to cover tattooos
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amother
Pink
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Fri, May 31 2024, 6:56 am
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There is an idea to « play the game » and your family is going to need to implement this strategy if you want to get through high school. There are things that my DD doesn’t understand (like knee socks) and I support her being different and out of the box (I guess) but she is savvy enough to PLAY THE GAME and follow rules and not get kicked out of school or camp. Same with nail polish and some other things. The schools really dislike girls or families who are always pushing the line. Like if the school says don’t take your kid out the day before winter break because it will be disruptive and make other kids jealous, then jus listen to them. Even if you will have one less day wherever you are going. And so on. The henna sounds like a kind of accident, but if it was the last straw in a long list of infractions then I get where the school is coming from (they are exasperated and I would be too).
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amother
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Fri, May 31 2024, 7:03 am
| essie14 wrote: | OP said its not a BY.
And schools definitely have rules about 2nd piercings and drinking alcohol. |
Non BY schools?
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Ruchel
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Fri, May 31 2024, 8:39 am
I went to public school some years and there was a dress code
Am I so old?
Henna tho? Forbidden in a Jewish school?
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amother
Chartreuse
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Fri, May 31 2024, 8:48 am
This is the first time I heard that henna is a custom for Jews. I always thought it was exclusive to Hindus and Muslims.
Is it considered a chatzitza?
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amother
Sapphire
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Fri, May 31 2024, 8:49 am
My non BY school had explicit rules about drinking and piercings, yes. 2nd piercings were allowed but any other body or ear piercings were not and we were very much told about it (I had a classmate get in trouble for coming in with a nose ring)
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amother
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Fri, May 31 2024, 8:54 am
| Ruchel wrote: | I went to public school some years and there was a dress code
Am I so old?
Henna tho? Forbidden in a Jewish school? |
Why not? Same way nail polish or non uniform sweater is.
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essie14
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Fri, May 31 2024, 8:55 am
Of course. Why would any school allow underage drinking?
The non BY schools in my community allow up to 2 piercings next to each other only on the earlobe. No cartilage or anywhere else. No nose piercings.
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amother
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Fri, May 31 2024, 9:41 am
| essie14 wrote: | OP said its not a BY.
And schools definitely have rules about 2nd piercings and drinking alcohol. |
My elementary school growing up was not a BY and they were against non-permanent tattos, extra piercings, and dying hair. Schools can still have rules even when not BY.
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amother
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Fri, May 31 2024, 10:17 am
| amother Chartreuse wrote: | This is the first time I heard that henna is a custom for Jews. I always thought it was exclusive to Hindus and Muslims.
Is it considered a chatzitza? |
Wow, where are you from? Do you have sefardi friends? (not asking in a mean way, just curious)
We dont do henna like indian brides. But its a big part of our weddings.
Not a chatzitza.
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amother
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Fri, May 31 2024, 10:25 am
| amother Denim wrote: | Wow, where are you from? Do you have sefardi friends? (not asking in a mean way, just curious)
We dont do henna like indian brides. But its a big part of our weddings.
Not a chatzitza. |
Curious why it isn’t considered a chatzitza?
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amother
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Fri, May 31 2024, 10:48 am
not sure! thats what our moroccan rav paskens
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amother
Snapdragon
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Fri, May 31 2024, 10:53 am
Kallah teacher and mikvah lady here.
1) a chatzitza is something that you do not want to be on your body. It's there by mistake. Henna is the literal opposite of that - you davka put it on your body because you want it. This is the first litmus test to see if you must remove something.
2) henna sits IN the skin, not ON the skin. Imagine if you had paint on your skin, and for the sake of further understanding what I wrote above, imagine you used tempera paint to paint a heart on your arm like a pretend tattoo. Why is a henna heart ok and a tempera heart not ok? You want them both there, which satisfies the first litmus test. The reason is because when you run your finger over the tempera paint, you can feel how it's on the skin. Henna, beet juice, sharpie, it's all IN the skin. It can stay.
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amother
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Fri, May 31 2024, 11:08 am
| amother Chartreuse wrote: | This is the first time I heard that henna is a custom for Jews. I always thought it was exclusive to Hindus and Muslims.
Is it considered a chatzitza? |
Do you not know any sfardi jews?
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amother
Apricot
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Fri, May 31 2024, 11:43 am
Until recently I never knew it was something sfardi jews did. I had never been to a sfardi wedding and there is not such a big sfardi community where I live. My coworkers a few years back were sfardi and I learned so so much about their lifestyle and customs and backgrounds that I had never known before.
So yeah it’s possible to know sfardi Jews and not know that there are Jews who do henna.
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amother
Burgundy
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Fri, May 31 2024, 11:45 am
| abound wrote: | is this the first time se did somehing that is too close to the line....or over the line for this school?
I know many sephardic and askenaz students...the BY type dont get hennas for fun....its only at simchos, and no school gave them or their ashkenaz freinds a hard time for it.
Also the ones they do at simchos dont take weeks to come off. Maybe a few days. This sounds more like a temp tatoo.
Schools dont have rules abt tatoos, they also dont have rules about drinkin, motorcycles, 2nd peircing.....they dont expect their girls to do it. |
Of course schools have rules about this things. If they don’t have explicit rules, such as a written rule against (let’s say) having tattoos, it’s because they feel it doesn’t need to be explicitly said because it’s so obvious. Like they don’t need to write shoes must be worn to school every day because it’s so obvious.
My daughter had some kids in her grade suspended because they were drinking and/or vaping on campus. (Some were doing one or the other, some both.) This is in a MO high school.
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amother
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Sun, Jun 02 2024, 9:31 pm
Because principal doesn't want it covered, but wants it gone. If dd put on foundation or coverup and it rubbed off in school, she would likely get in more trouble for trying to lie about it. AND I don't believe in lying.
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