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Oops forgot to put the key in the challah



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amother
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Post Fri, May 03 2024, 1:48 am
I forgot to put the key in the challah. Do I poke it in the bottom or just not do it? I know its not a halacha, and an unknown minhag or segulah at best. hmmm
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Elfrida




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 2:05 am
Poke it in at the bottom, or between the sections of the braid. Wrap it in foil or baking paper first.
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essie14




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 5:13 am
Just stick it on top when you serve it.
There are no rules.
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amother
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Post Fri, May 03 2024, 5:37 am
I don’t really have a regular door key because we have an electronic door and don’t have enough extra copies to put one in. I feel that the. Segulah is mitzvah of taking challah with a bra ha.
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amother
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Post Fri, May 03 2024, 8:20 am
Don’t do it. The source is actually in idolatry and does not have Torah origins.
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patzer




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 8:22 am
amother OP wrote:
I forgot to put the key in the challah. Do I poke it in the bottom or just not do it? I know its not a halacha, and an unknown minhag or segulah at best. hmmm


It seems that your challah will be missing a key ingredient this week.
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amother
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Post Fri, May 03 2024, 8:23 am
amother OP wrote:
I forgot to put the key in the challah. Do I poke it in the bottom or just not do it? I know its not a halacha, and an unknown minhag or segulah at best. hmmm


Google key in loaf this is a Christian practice. We used to do it until we learned from a convert about the origin. We stopped and bh we saw great reward in parnassah.
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amother
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Post Fri, May 03 2024, 8:24 am
patzer wrote:
It seems that your challah will be missing a key ingredient this week.


LOL LOL
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amother
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Post Fri, May 03 2024, 8:26 am
amother Pansy wrote:
Don’t do it. The source is actually in idolatry and does not have Torah origins.


True! May we all be saved from hidden avoda Zara which Christians brought into pre war Jewish communities. Rachmanah litzlon
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amother
Skyblue


 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 8:30 am
amother Watermelon wrote:
Google key in loaf this is a Christian practice. We used to do it until we learned from a convert about the origin. We stopped and bh we saw great reward in parnassah.

Hilarious
reverse segulah
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Ruchel  




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 8:40 am
Many don't use any key just a shape
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amother
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Post Fri, May 03 2024, 9:23 am
[quote="amother Watermelon"]Google key in loaf this is a Christian practice. We used to do it until we learned from a convert about the origin. We stopped and bh we saw great reward in parnassah.[/quote that is interesting. I posted above that I did not put a key in. Just something doesn’t sit 100% with me about it. But now you’re telling me that there’s a legit reason and I made challah after pesach this year, and financially, we are actually in a much better position than we did in the past. I tried to make whenever I can, because of the. Mitzvah. I’m not perfect, but I try as much as possible to make it regularly not just once a year. Someone once told me that it’s better to buy other things and make challah but sometimes it’s just too much
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  Ruchel




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 9:24 am
Sources
https://gamzouletova.blogspot......l?m=1
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amother
Ecru


 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 9:57 am
https://hakirah.org/Vol35RonPreRelease.pdf
Recent scholarly research on the topic. The good news: it’s not avoda zara or sourced in Avoda zara. The bad news: everyone’s doing it wrong. The sources clearly say to make holes or lines in the challah USING A KEY. It’s supposed to look somewhat like a matzah. That’s it. No baking the key in it. No shaping the whole thing like a key.

This just isn’t going to do it Smile
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jflower




 
 
    
 

Post Fri, May 03 2024, 11:06 am
https://kankanjournal.com/a0601/

Read this fascinating account of the Maharal of Prague.
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