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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:16 pm
I live on street that can get busy at times and the cars often back up from the red light and block my driveway. The only way for me to ever get out is to rely on the kindness of strangers and bh 99% of people stop and give me a chance. But I would love to know what your mindset it when you don't let someone pull out in front of you? Do you think you will get there so much faster because of one less car??
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:21 pm
amother Chocolate wrote: | As a slow driver (license for just under a year), the extra honking used to make me very anxious. I've since come to realize, that I won't be able to drive like that. It absolutely doesn't faze me when you honk behind me. I will continue driving at my pace, because that's how I feel safe. I will continue make a slower turn, because that's how I feel safe. |
I understand that. The question I have for slow drivers is that if you see someone is in a hurry, why not pull over and let the other person pass (where possible of course). It doesn't impact your safe driving abilities.
What I find really frustrating is when someone cuts you off by turning into your lane and then proceeds to drive at a slow pace. If you're not in a rush, and driving slowly, why the need to cut someone off. Just wait a few extra seconds for the road to clear.
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:26 pm
amother Yarrow wrote: | I live on street that can get busy at times and the cars often back up from the red light and block my driveway. The only way for me to ever get out is to rely on the kindness of strangers and bh 99% of people stop and give me a chance. But I would love to know what your mindset it when you don't let someone pull out in front of you? Do you think you will get there so much faster because of one less car?? |
No, but you're not the only car trying to merge into traffic on my way home. So I make room for some, but can't do it for all. It adds up to a lot more than 1 car.
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:28 pm
That is pretty obnoxious behavior to constantly beep people. You must come out of the car feeling so stressed out.
When I'm feeling stressed, I deliberately allow other cars in and give way so that I can do as many mitzvot and offer as much kindness to others as I can. It really makes me feel good.
Last Friday I was rushing to the shops and a lady backed out the last space so I turned my car around to go into her space as she backed out. It wasn't so obvious I was waiting because I went up the road a few metres to turn around, and as I came back there was another car who obviously also wanted the space, but I was already reversing in. He gave me such a glare and rolled down his window. I was a bit frightened because he was red in the facr and so angry. Then as I got out, I could see he took a deep breath and just yelled out "good shabbos' and drove away. I felt so relieved he calmed himself down- neither of us was right or wrong and instead of screaming at me in front of his kids and mine he just was a mench.
Kindness really pays off for your own menuchas hanefesh and for others.
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:34 pm
I cringed reading this. Please don’t do this, it’s dangerous, terribly obnoxious and a huge chillul Hashem. Imagine if you weren’t in a car, Just walking on the sidewalk, would you shriek at people to move faster, get out of your way?
Try to remember the car ahead of you has a human being in it.
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:35 pm
OP do you also scream at your kids? Hard to believe this level of impatience and reactivity doesn't come out anywhere else in your life.
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:38 pm
amother DarkRed wrote: | When someone beeps at me, I slow down and enjoy the moment, especially if the beep comes from a wild or impatient driver.
If I see in the mirror that the driver makes angry motions, or is yelling / cursing, I try to slow down even more and take chill.
For the same reason I don't beep at wild drivers because I don't want to give them the pleasure of making me angry...
OP (or anyone else), If you ever beeped at me, I would like to thank you for giving me a few seconds of joy |
I do the same thing, I slow down even more, especially when I’m carefully making a turn.
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:40 pm
Also why In the world do you honk at red lights?! Your not doing anything except stressing everyone out
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 3:52 pm
I am also an aggressive driver. I am a very fast person by nature and I also think I have slight ADD.
My kids say I drive like an Israeli. I am really trying to work on it. I go out of my way to let other cars go in front of me so I can work on my patience.
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Mimosa
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 4:09 pm
I walk a lot and often when I'm crossing the street, with a light, cars will honk away at the car who is waiting to turn right- but is Baruch Hashem waiting for me to cross and not running me over!
Everyone honking me- what do you want him to do? Kill me?
Another thing that I can't understand is people who honk at cars in front of them stopped for a school bus!
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 4:17 pm
Please tell your kids that Israeli's go trough a much more vigorous driving schooling protocol than what is required in the USA, and are typically much better drivers than American's.
They also talk MUCH more about street safety, and talk about it a LOT, with kids and with adults.
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 4:36 pm
amother Dandelion wrote: | No, but you're not the only car trying to merge into traffic on my way home. So I make room for some, but can't do it for all. It adds up to a lot more than 1 car. |
The light is red. You are not going anywhere anyways. Pretend I was on the road already. To pull up and just block me in my driveway is Stam obnoxious.
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 4:40 pm
I remember my principal in high school 15 years ago saying how people can get behind the wheel and become a monster. He said that it stems from a deep gaava- “I” am the most important one on the road. No one else has places to go and things to do…
OP, this behavior is truly disgusting. It’s mean and scary. Is that how you are trying to come across to the other people in the cars? (Yes they are people, not self driving robots)
You can drive perfectly well and get where you need to go (in the same amount of time, mind you) without scaring other people on the road.
How about the mother with the crying newborn, who’s trying to drive safely? How about the dignified rav of your shul who you accidentally beeped before realizing it was him?
How embarrassing for you!
Please work on your middos
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Coffee
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 5:09 pm
amother OP wrote: | I drive the speed limit and very carefully. I just can't stand the slow ppl on the road like the ones driving extra slow and then finally pull over to the side. Or ppl that try and get away with making u-turns. Don't block the whole street for doing something illegal! I never make u-turns. I don't cut ppl off on the road. I just don't let them come in front of me like someone backing out of a driveway or parking spot. |
Well I live on a busy street and appreciate those that do let me out of my house to merge into traffic. Why don’t you see it as a chesed?
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 5:27 pm
OP, my best friend gave a little honk at some men who drove around her car by illegally turning into a side street and then zooming right in front of her. They stopped their car and came running at her with guns drawn. She had a gun held to her head. It’s a crazy world these days. Perhaps you can reframe your thinking—honking might be a dangerous thing to do.
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octopus
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 5:37 pm
amother Snapdragon wrote: | Wait till you honk behind my husband. He'll sit out the rest of the light until the next green if you honk at him.
Its wrong too and id be mortified to be with him in the car but I get his point. |
Equally wrong!!!
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 5:45 pm
Why is everyone responding to OP like she's the dangerous driver and rude driver?
She said clearly she is a safe driver.
Aggressive driving does not mean dangerous.
But the people OP has no patience for, cars who drive slower than the speed limit, make illegal u-turns in the middle of the road, etc, are both unsafe and highly inconsiderate.
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amother
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 5:47 pm
amother Tuberose wrote: | I remember my principal in high school 15 years ago saying how people can get behind the wheel and become a monster. He said that it stems from a deep gaava- “I” am the most important one on the road. No one else has places to go and things to do…
OP, this behavior is truly disgusting. It’s mean and scary. Is that how you are trying to come across to the other people in the cars? (Yes they are people, not self driving robots)
You can drive perfectly well and get where you need to go (in the same amount of time, mind you) without scaring other people on the road.
How about the mother with the crying newborn, who’s trying to drive safely? How about the dignified rav of your shul who you accidentally beeped before realizing it was him?
How embarrassing for you!
Please work on your middos |
No, it's the opposite. Making an illegal u-turn is like elbowing your way in front of someone waiting on line at the cashier. It's highly inconsiderate and rude. Giving a beep is similar to saying Excuse me, I was here waiting.
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Mulberry
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Wed, Apr 10 2024, 5:49 pm
amother Snapdragon wrote: | Idk why the op gives off a boasting vibe more than an apologetic one. Maybe they hit the imamother tab instead of the imabucher tab. 🤷🏻♀️ |
If it would be apologetic then she probably wouldn’t drive the way she does lol
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