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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 10:22 pm
b.chadash wrote:
Yes, but I guess I don't get why someone would need a nurse past childhood and why Devorah is such an important figure that her name and death are mentioned in the Torah.
We don't see any other figure in Tanach (that I can think of) who had a nurse that stayed with them past childhood. Correct me if I'm wrong. But this always niggles at me.


I did not study this in depth but I do remember learning her mother died when rivkah was young.
Perhaps it’s teaching us the great respect and gratefulness rivkah had for the one who was not her biological mother but the one who stepped up to the plate.
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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 4:22 am
effess wrote:
Nursing/weaning in tanach:
Interesting Midrashim too


Basya and Miriam with Moshe
Beyom higamel- avraham made a tour of party when yitzchok was weaned
Chana brought shmuel to mishkan then (?)
Sarah nurses all the babies after yitzchok was born
Kegamul alei imo
Birchos shadayim veracham
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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 6:46 am
dena613 wrote:
Basya and Miriam with Moshe
Beyom higamel- avraham made a tour of party when yitzchok was weaned
Chana brought shmuel to mishkan then (?)
Sarah nurses all the babies after yitzchok was born
Kegamul alei imo
Birchos shadayim veracham


Great!
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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 6:49 am
Can you think of more?

Of course Devora meinekes Rivkah

Also in haazinu
Yoneik im ish seivah
(Come to think of it, yikes. We should read haazinu and see how it checked to what's going on in EY now)
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  GLUE  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 6:51 am
GLUE wrote:
When Yaakov dreamed the ladder which Malcheim went up also-not the ones who were accompany him.


I will rewrite this question.

When Yaakov dreamed of the ladder he saw the Malchiom that were coming to go with him outside of EY come down and those who were with him in EY going up the ladder.

There were a group of Malchiom who "hitch hiked" up also. Who were they and why did they have to go up this way?
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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 6:54 am
GLUE wrote:
I will rewrite this question.

When Yaakov dreamed of the ladder he saw the Malchiom that were coming to go with him outside of EY come down and those who were with him in EY going up the ladder.

There were a group of Malchiom who "hitch hiked" up also. Who were they and why did they have to go up this way?


Ok GLUE, never heard of that one, so I googled and found:

The Rosh (Genesis 6:2) writes that these angels were actually from the "Nephilim" in the generation of Enosh.

In exchange for intimacy, they handed over their wings to a young lady. She than took off with them and the angels were now stuck. That is, untill Yaakovs dream, where they found a ladder to heaven on which they ascended and could now return above.

So interesting!!
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  GLUE  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 6:58 am
dena613 wrote:
Ok GLUE, never heard of that one, so I googled and found:

The Rosh (Genesis 6:2) writes that these angels were actually from the "Nephilim" in the generation of Enosh.

In exchange for intimacy, they handed over their wings to a young lady. She than took off with them and the angels were now stuck. That is, untill Yaakovs dream, where they found a ladder to heaven on which they ascended and could now return above.

So interesting!!


What I learned was that the Malchiom that came to destroy Sodem said that they will be destroying and did not say anything about Hashem so they lost there ride back to Shemioim.

Never heard what you just googled.
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  keym  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 7:22 am
b.chadash wrote:
Yes, but I guess I don't get why someone would need a nurse past childhood and why Devorah is such an important figure that her name and death are mentioned in the Torah.
We don't see any other figure in Tanach (that I can think of) who had a nurse that stayed with them past childhood. Correct me if I'm wrong. But this always niggles at me.


She went with Rivka to Avrohoms house at 3 years old (according to the midrash) and raised her.
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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 9:12 am
Easy but fun:
What year was Lech lichah?
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  cbsp  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 10:27 am
effess wrote:
Easy but fun:
What year was Lech lichah?


2023
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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 10:45 am
cbsp wrote:
2023


Correct!
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 25 2023, 11:52 am
effess wrote:
Easy but fun:
What year was Lech lichah?


He was born in1948 and was 75 at Lech Lecha. So 2023.
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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 4:05 am
Hungers in Tanach
go!
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 8:00 am
effess wrote:
Hungers in Tanach
go!


Hinei yamim Baim, hishlachti Ra'av Ba'eretz.
Lo Rav Lalechem, v'lo tzama lamayim, ki Im LISHMOA ES DIVREI HASHEM
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 8:01 am
In this week's parsha, there was a hunger in Eretz Canaan, forcing Avraham Avinu to go down to Mitzrayim
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  GrowingUp




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 8:04 am
effess wrote:
Hungers in Tanach
go!


Megillas Rus
End of Bereishis where the shevatim were sent to Mitzrayim
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  pause




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 8:07 am
I'd love to be able to read 2-3 riddles for my kids to generate discussion each Shabbos at the seuda.

Can anyone volunteer to compile these into a printable Q and A format?
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 8:22 am
pause wrote:
I'd love to be able to read 2-3 riddles for my kids to generate discussion each Shabbos at the seuda.

Can anyone volunteer to compile these into a printable Q and A format?


I think someone did, back when this thread was first active. I don't remember who.

But there are several books on the market that contain Jewish riddles and trivia questions. We have a few of them.
Check out 1,001 Questions and Answers by Eli Brunner. There are 2 volumes.

https://a.co/d/hbTKJPi
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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 9:31 am
Good list of hungers so far.
I’m thinking of one not yet mentioned in Navi
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  cbsp  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Oct 26 2023, 9:45 am
In the midbar before the "mohn" was sent
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