PSA Ayala | Imamother

amother

↑ OP ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 7:52 am

amother Navy wrote:

It’s certainly not used for chicken,

Why would you say so?! It is actually! Hindel is used in my circles for chicken

amother

↑ OP ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 7:53 am

amother Crimson wrote:

So if someone is named Hindel it means she was named after someone who was named for a chicken?

Seems so....
And I kmow 2 Hindels

amother

↑ OP ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 7:55 am

amother Navy wrote:

It’s really on you to show they are the same…

There is nit a way to prove they are the same ir to prive that they are different.
We can inky prove from older sources snd usage what each of them mean.
This is what I meant.

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 7:55 am

amother OP wrote:

But im reakly baffled hinda and Hindel are not the same word. AND THEY ARE BOTH ANIMALS!!

The latter is pronounced hendle.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:00 am

amother Navy wrote:

The latter is pronounced hendle.

Not refering to the name Hendel (I know one as well)
Im speaking about the name Hindel

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:01 am

amother OP wrote:

Why would you say so?! It is actually! Hindel is used in my circles for chicken

But hinda is not.

amother

Lotus

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:03 am

When we learned naftali ayala shelucha in birchos Yaakov we translated it as "hind" and the principal was very particular about language, so I'm sure this is a correct translation. Ayala = hind.

giftedmom ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:08 am

amother OP wrote:

I thought gazelle is a deer, thanks for correcting my English!
I've never heard of a Hind! Seems like that would be different from Hinda/ Hindel, ie chicken... can any Yiddish speakers chime in?

Gazelles are beautiful animals in the entelope family of which deer are also a part. But they’re a totally different species.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:11 am

amother Lotus wrote:

When we learned naftali ayala shelucha in birchos Yaakov we translated it as "hind" and the principal was very particular about language, so I'm sure this is a correct translation. Ayala = hind.

Thank you! This was helpful
If anyone else has seen it used/ printed anywhere id love to hear

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:13 am

amother OP wrote:

Thank you! This was helpful
If anyone else has seen it usedtprinted anywhere id love to hear

There is nothing printed suggesting hinda means chicken. Nothing.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:13 am

giftedmom wrote:

Gazelles are beautiful animals in the entelope family of which deer are also a part. But they’re a totally different species.

Thank you
My issue with that trqnslation wasnt with the Yiddish to Hebrew
It was with the Engkish, I apprreciate your post clarifying

amother

↑ OP ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:24 am

amother Navy wrote:

There is nothing printed suggesting hinda means chicken. Nothing.

Ok.
I'm still looking for sources for how these words ARE used, thank you!

happy2bmarried

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:27 am

Original Yiddish/German/English used hind/hinda to mean a species of female deer.

Huhn/hahn are the yiddish word for chicken. At some point it seems to have morphed into hindel but it's definitely not the original name for chicken. Possibly a mistake from hendel.

So it is correct to say that Ayala is the translation of Hinda.

Thanks for sending me down that rabbit hole. You learn something new every day.

It's certainly explains the name hinda. Why would you name your child chicken??

amother

Sand

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:42 am

giftedmom wrote:

Gazelles are beautiful animals in the entelope family of which deer are also a part. But they’re a totally different species.

*Antelope

amother

Pear ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:51 am

I speak German and I know that in German Hinde, pronounced something like heendeh, is an old fashioned word for female deer. Similar to hind in English, same root. Yiddish contains a lot of words derived from ancient German dialects.
A chicken, in some German dialects, is a Hendel/Haendel, diminuitive of Henne which is a female chicken.

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:56 am

amother Pear wrote:

Thank you. OP - as someone clearly triggered by your PSA, can you remove it.

Iymnok ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 8:57 am

Hind rhymes with behind.
Handel was probably hen in the familiar. Like hand is hent but many call it hentele.

amother

↑ Pear

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 9:01 am

amother Navy wrote:

Thank you. OP - as someone clearly triggered by your PSA, can you remove it.

Are you triggered by OP's post or by me mentioning German?

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Wed, Aug 02 2023, 9:14 am

amother Pear wrote:

Are you triggered by OP's post or by me mentioning German?

OP's post.

signed,

not a Chicken.