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Wed, Jun 28 2023, 5:58 pm
confused 2 wrote: | It was a little drawn out but at the last sentence Eli explained why Dina needs the house so crucially because her marriage is falling apart. of course! I didn't think otherwise, how can she live with a husband? but my question is why Eli cares more for her sister's marriage than his own. |
Because Esty lets herself get abused emotionally, she swallows tons of garbage.
The only thing she did was refuse to sign the papers but besides for that she keeps swallowing all his hurtful comments like about her silly designer business. That’s disgusting. He couldn’t care less about her feelings, ever.
And she thinks that she has to be a supportive wife under any and all circumstances, and she’s not good enough.
And Eli also thinks that she has to be a supportive wife under any and all circumstances and that she’s not good enough.
So they’re on the same page there.
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Thu, Jun 29 2023, 3:51 pm
confused 2 wrote: | It was a little drawn out but at the last sentence Eli explained why Dina needs the house so crucially because her marriage is falling apart. of course! I didn't think otherwise, how can she live with a husband? but my question is why Eli cares more for her sister's marriage than his own. |
Surprise surprise!
Do I feel sorry for Dina? No I do not. I probably feel more sorry for her husband if she treats him like she treats everyone else.
And like you mentioned, why should Eli be more concerned for Dina’s marriage than his and Esty’s?
So messed up!
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amother
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Fri, Jun 30 2023, 12:13 am
koalamum wrote: | Surprise surprise!
Do I feel sorry for Dina? No I do not. I probably feel more sorry for her husband if she treats him like she treats everyone else.
And like you mentioned, why should Eli be more concerned for Dina’s marriage than his and Esty’s?
So messed up! |
I don't understand, how is a nice house is gonna help Dinas marriage? And if it would, who wants to be married to a person just because of a house? I wouldn't want such a marriage.
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amother
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Fri, Jun 30 2023, 5:05 am
reasons are not excuses
nisyonim and compassion do not justify poor choices
nor avert the consequences of poor choices even if kicking the can down the road
the longer it goes on the worse the fall
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amother
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Sat, Jul 01 2023, 10:56 pm
koalamum wrote: | Surprise surprise!
Do I feel sorry for Dina? No I do not. I probably feel more sorry for her husband if she treats him like she treats everyone else.
And like you mentioned, why should Eli be more concerned for Dina’s marriage than his and Esty’s?
So messed up! |
I wonder if Dina's husband is even more entitled than she is and was in the marriage mostly for the money. That's why it's important for them to live in a beautiful house and not the basement.
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amother
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Sat, Jul 01 2023, 11:50 pm
amother Royalblue wrote: | I wonder if Dina's husband is even more entitled than she is and was in the marriage mostly for the money. That's why it's important for them to live in a beautiful house and not the basement. |
Why is marriage above all else? Why do they "have to" stay married under such conditions.
Is that why her father was killing himself? So she should stay married?
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amother
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 1:08 am
The story is getting dumb. Who cares if the only way Dina will stay married is with a house let her get divorced. Because next she will need a vacation to bora bora and so on.
Also why can’t Dina husband parents also give money towards the house it’s very normal for two sides to give money.
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 1:22 am
I believe either 1. Eli made that up just to get Esty to have compassion and agree to sign. Or 2. Dina made it up to Eli to get him to get Esty to sign. Either way, she does not deserve it and I really hope Esty doesn't fall into the trap! Her marriage needs serious help
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amother
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 4:46 am
the "her marriage is in trouble" is an emotional rather than logical argument.
even if her husband threatens to leave without financial backing the arrangement is not sustainable
or fear she will fall into a depression or who knows what
best to deal with financial reality now and let the chips fall where they may rather than go over the cliff with her
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 6:06 am
I'm thinking of Dina's perspective...
If her father promised a house and unlimited credit card before she got married, as part of the support arrangement, it might not be so simple to back out. From her end, she just lost her father who she loved more than anyone, now she has to lose her dreams too?
However, she is a total jerk and so self-centered that it's no surprise her marriage is in trouble. And of course Eli has to come in his shining armor to save her.
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 6:31 am
This story is so pathetic. I don't know how, or actually why, Esty puts up with Eli's abuse. The irony of bringing up Dina's marriage issues. Don't you see how your marriage is in the dumps???
I just feel like a good spanking to Eli would be in order.
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 6:32 am
amother Camellia wrote: | I'm thinking of Dina's perspective...
If her father promised a house and unlimited credit card before she got married, as part of the support arrangement, it might not be so simple to back out. From her end, she just lost her father who she loved more than anyone, now she has to lose her dreams too?
However, she is a total jerk and so self-centered that it's no surprise her marriage is in trouble. And of course Eli has to come in his shining armor to save her. | If her father promised full support and unlimited funding, then go call him to Din Torah. How dare he die on her?
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Queen Of Hearts
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 9:28 am
amother Cerulean wrote: | I don't understand, how is a nice house is gonna help Dinas marriage? And if it would, who wants to be married to a person just because of a house? I wouldn't want such a marriage. |
It will delay her next tantrum. Keep her busy for a bit...
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amother
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 6:14 pm
This story is so infuriating but I'm addicted lol my husband and I laugh about how crazy it is every week.
Eli is working himself to the bone and taking out mortgages while neither Dina or her husband work, that makes total sense to him.
Eli being more concerned with Dina’s marriage when he barely has one himself.
This week he was a real jerk, he seems dumb as a doorknob 😂
Too harsh?
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amother
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Sun, Jul 02 2023, 6:27 pm
Maybe Dina husband is only with her because of the money tree. That adds another dimension to the problem.
Also do those saying how dumb the story is, be happy you don’t have this problem. It is very common for people to have reasons why they need money and appeal to family members emotions to get it. The people dh gives the most money too don’t live simple lives. They just have lots of “needs”
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Mon, Jul 03 2023, 12:54 pm
Let Dina divorce and free her poor husband and let Eli save his marriage instead ( and his debt)
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amother
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Mon, Jul 03 2023, 5:22 pm
flowerpower wrote: | Let Dina divorce and free her poor husband and let Eli save his marriage instead ( and his debt) |
Dinas husband gets no sympathy from me. He’s just as bad as she is. He told Eli to “try harder” when he’s apparently the only one in that family that works?!
He also summoned Eli to beis din for… reasons I guess.
All the while Eli is supporting his family.
Ungrateful is an understatement.
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Mon, Jul 03 2023, 8:54 pm
amother Papaya wrote: | Dinas husband gets no sympathy from me. He’s just as bad as she is. He told Eli to “try harder” when he’s apparently the only one in that family that works?!
He also summoned Eli to beis din for… reasons I guess.
All the while Eli is supporting his family.
Ungrateful is an understatement. |
Oh. Hes just as bad as she is. Then he deserves living in a basement too
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amother
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Thu, Jul 06 2023, 9:41 am
So are they going to beis din or not? Wouldn't that clear things up? Maybe Dina or her husband realize they don't have a strong case so it's an empty threat. They aren't afraid that Eli might turn around and bring THEM to beis din--he's more likely to bring Esti there to force her to sign their lives away to the business.
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