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  missknowitall  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 10:44 am
Bnei Berak 10 wrote:
Please please please there is no need to speculate. I hope police investigation is thorough but frankly there is no need and no toelet in speculation.
How would *you* feel if someone close to your or family was involved in something illegal or unpleasant and people started to speculate??
Speculation doesn't help victims *at all*!


First of all they aren’t Jewish. Toeles has no place here. And why are you so bothered with me pointing out that there are likely more crimes here? If anyone close to me was involved in such things I would call in my suspicions myself. They all belong in jail all the people who helped cover it up.
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  Bnei Berak 10  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 11:03 am
missknowitall wrote:
First of all they aren’t Jewish. Toeles has no place here. And why are you so bothered with me pointing out that there are likely more crimes here? If anyone close to me was involved in such things I would call in my suspicions myself. They all belong in jail all the people who helped cover it up.

I understand that they aren't Jewish but we aren't 100% sure for them moment, right?
Perpetrator and helpers of cover up definitely belong in jail, I totally agree with you 100%!
I do hope investigation will be conducted thoroughly.
That said, it's totally unnecessary to speculate in things that you don't have a basis for. What good does speculation do, can you please tell me?
Pure speculation can lead to totally unfounded rumours and I find it tactless and insensitive. It does not help his victims one bit, Jewish or not.
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  missknowitall  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 11:04 am
Bnei Berak 10 wrote:
I understand that they aren't Jewish but we aren't 100% sure for them moment, right?
Perpetrator and helpers of cover up definitely belong in jail, I totally agree with you 100%!
I do hope investigation will be conducted thoroughly.
That said, it's totally unnecessary to speculate in things that you don't have a basis for. What good does speculation do, can you please tell me?
Pure speculation can lead to totally unfounded rumours and I find it tactless and insensitive. It does not help his victims one bit, Jewish or not.


I don’t agree with you. And I’m also not going to debate it with you.
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  cookier  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 11:50 am
Mama Bear wrote:
For two reasons. One, the judges would be more wary to incriminate him, bc they would be afraid of the whole Jewish world coming to his defense and screaming anti semitism. Two, bc no one would suspect that this very very religious looking family is a pedo den.

Ironically, the publicity and faux Judaism is what made it way more suspicious, had he pretended to be a religious Christian.

I'm surprised his own family didnt turn him in. His siblings, cousins etc all know he is a complete hoax; the 2 youngest ones are his nephews. I dont understand how they didnt raise an outcry.


I was telling my husband about this and he pointed out that pretending to be frum, and Chassidish specifically, gave him an excuse to isolate them further. This looks like one of the last of the “feel good” articles about him online and he says in it that the boys have needs that would be best served in public school but he can’t put them there because of religious reasons. Playing chassidic allows him to do not only that but say that he can’t even send them to the frum schools because they’re not chassidish. I’m sure none of these Texan social workers knew enough to question it, so ok, now he gets to homeschool them.

Thanks for the tidbit about the youngest two being his nephews, that clears a lot up. I fell into their Instagram rabbit hole and on thanksgiving they posted about having their “bubbe and zeidy” come visit and there’s a picture of “bubbe” with one of the youngest. They look so similar that I thought she must be their birth relative. Makes sense now. His poor family probably just thought he was a weirdo, I hope they never suspected he was being abusive.
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  OceanChimes  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 11:57 am
cookier wrote:
I was telling my husband about this and he pointed out that pretending to be frum, and Chassidish specifically, gave him an excuse to isolate them further. This looks like one of the last of the “feel good” articles about him online and he says in it that the boys have needs that would be best served in public school but he can’t put them there because of religious reasons. Playing chassidic allows him to do not only that but say that he can’t even send them to the frum schools because they’re not chassidish. I’m sure none of these Texan social workers knew enough to question it, so ok, now he gets to homeschool them.

Thanks for the tidbit about the youngest two being his nephews, that clears a lot up. I fell into their Instagram rabbit hole and on thanksgiving they posted about having their “bubbe and zeidy” come visit and there’s a picture of “bubbe” with one of the youngest. They look so similar that I thought she must be their birth relative. Makes sense now. His poor family probably just thought he was a weirdo, I hope they never suspected he was being abusive.


Makes so much sense what you're saying. But it's mindboggling that he thought this whole thing up and played his moves strategically, it was all part of a sick plan. Yuck.
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justforfun87




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 12:32 pm
I just don't understand and maybe I keep posting this but this whole situation is completely a red flag and creepy from the beginning. Maybe I have men issues but please ladies... the second you hear a man fosters 9 boys you don't automatically think pedophile? Is it just me?
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  Chickensoupprof  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 1:06 pm
justforfun87 wrote:
I just don't understand and maybe I keep posting this but this whole situation is completely a red flag and creepy from the beginning. Maybe I have men issues but please ladies... the second you hear a man fosters 9 boys you don't automatically think pedophile? Is it just me?


I don't have men issues, and I'm really ok with two men, and two women fostering a child (but let's not derail a thread of that, I just happen to meet adults who were raised that way and were happy as ever because of foster parents regardless their situation). A single man with 9 boys? Yeah... that does not sit well with me either.

Yet I know of a big tzaddik who is widowed and has a bunch of children, but that is different, he won't take children on, he doesn't lie, everyone knows him and everyone knows he is a tzaddik. That is the difference. So this man has a shop and I don't know your toddler needs a wee and your baby is in the pram and he is offering to watch the baby. Yes. Because I know this lad, I know his story, I know how people talk about him. ''Mr. Cohen'' wasn't known by anyone!! And I know if I meet one chassidish woman in Antwerp with her first and last name and I go to Williamsburg or Stamford Hill the week after that I sure will find some relative or at least someone who knows her.



Mind you that most offenders of s-x abuse are not even pedophiles*. As in they don't have romantic feelings toward a child they are just sadistic and want to see a hopeless being suffer (Antisocial PS people for instance). And sometimes an antisocial personality disorder (or psychopath) is a pedophile as well works both ways I think this ''Mr Cohen'' is both a psychopath/pedophile. Just because how he planned everything ahead, you need to have a sick mind for that really.

It is sad that men now have these stigmas though. When studying in college (and I ended up doing 4 courses) the men weren't less trusted with kids when I did the course of pedagogics. Yet these were the blokes that the people in the workforce were desperate to have because there were too many women in these jobs which were not good for the children. As in, for women boys were mostly always too loud and too wild and they all had ADHD or were not listening etc. If you had a man who was working with children he was understanding to the boys, boys needed to have a figure like him. Yet... I remember one classmate at that time who needed to film an one on one session for an assement for school with the parents permission and no one wanted it because they didn't trust him.



*Please, this is a disclaimer. It is important to know this in the prevention of victims. That there are different kinds of people who are doing these crimes, from people who have molested themselves, to pedophiles to psychopaths to people with a (very) low IQ who think a child is in love with them and want to do adult things... and they have all a different Modus Operandi and some of these people can be treated. This doesn't mean I'm defending these crimes in any way! But once you know this you know how where to look out for. For example, if Ploni who has a low IQ and has been s-xually molested and is 12 and touched his 6-year-old cousin...he needs different care than this ''Mr. Cohen''. Who will likely in the NL be imprisoned for life with forced psychiatric treatment.
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realsilver




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 1:58 pm
dena613 wrote:
So so weird
I don't want to hear any details about the abuse because it's too upsetting, so just reading, but super weird how in one interview he calls himself chabad, in another he calls himself satmar
He has picture of lubavitcher rebbe on the wall, but they are quite obviously not looking chabad.

If you look at his website
Ouruniquefamily.org
It's like they are dressed up for pictures sometimes to look "hasidic", like they are wearing costumes


the first thing that screams out at me is that their peyos are all turned backward! LOL
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  Mama Bear  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 2:03 pm
EXACTLY. I KNEW this was a pedo den from day 1. All my suspicions have come true. its unreal.
I also knew that he is faking being ill. Someone this sick would have lost a ton of weight by now. Red flag.
The only thing that shocked me was that none of the kids are jwish.
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  #BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 2:04 pm
fmt4 wrote:
I’m confused. If there was a 2019 charge of abuse of a minor, how was he allowed to keep fostering the kids until now?


The woke government promotes pedophilia,

I mean minor attraction.
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  4thebooks  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 2:31 pm
If the younger kids are his nephews and they belong to one of his siblings whom I’m assuming is not Jewish how were the birth parents ok with him raising them religious looking?
I feel like there is so much more to the story and it keeps getting creepier by the minute.
To the person that asked if she’s the only one that thought pedo from the moment she saw this family the answer is no, you’re not.
From the very beginning when my sister told me about this account I kept saying something is off, they looked like fiddler on the roof actors and I had my suspicions. This is beyond sad Sad
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Mindfully




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 5:51 pm
realsilver wrote:
the first thing that screams out at me is that their peyos are all turned backward! LOL


I went back to look at their Facebook pages and some of them have payos turned forwards, but not all. I am not chassidish so can someone tell me turning the peyos is the rule and why? Does any authentic chossid turn them backwards?
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newlywed5




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 5:57 pm
Mindfully wrote:
I went back to look at their Facebook pages and some of them have payos turned forwards, but not all. I am not chassidish so can someone tell me turning the peyos is the rule and why? Does any authentic chossid turn them backwards?


Nope never
The two youngest have stick ons LOL
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Judy  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 6:15 pm
I checked out their instagram page and am surprised that some of you have said that you’ve been following for long time and looked like such an interesting an chassidish family!

They look sooo off
Which chasidish boy wears a necklace?
Putting the magen david necklace is like trying to do it right.
Their whole dress is off - looking chasidish is only the peyos - jeans? Long hair? The way they speak, so many red flags they really don’t even act Jewish.
Setting up chanuka like x-mas in blue?
I haven’t even scrolled back enough just that threw me off!
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  Blessing1  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 6:32 pm
Judy wrote:
I checked out their instagram page and am surprised that some of you have said that you’ve been following for long time and looked like such an interesting an chassidish family!

They look sooo off
Which chasidish boy wears a necklace?
Putting the magen david necklace is like trying to do it right.
Their whole dress is off - looking chasidish is only the peyos - jeans? Long hair? The way they speak, so many red flags they really don’t even act Jewish.
Setting up chanuka like x-mas in blue?
I haven’t even scrolled back enough just that threw me off!


They do look like a weird interesting family. No one said that they look like a regular family.
So many frum jews set up on chanuka similar to x-mas, this isn't an indication of anything off.
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  Judy




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 6:41 pm
You wouldn’t really find that by chassidim- the x-mas look.
Here are a few more odd points.
Y are the boys wearing shells under their short sleeve shirts? Boys are allowed to wear short sleeves- another thing he got wrong.
When they taste the jelly bellies he just pops it into his mouth not even occurring to make Bracha.
When he’s explaining the tzitzis he’s wearing them backwards…
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  dena613




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 7:13 pm
On their website they describe each kid.
Most are into boy scouts, sports, and police

How was CPS or texas educational Dept okay with a second grader, age 8, learning his shapes and colors??? (That's what his bio says)
Since when is that age appropriate?
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  ra_mom  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 8:23 pm
realsilver wrote:
the first thing that screams out at me is that their peyos are all turned backward! LOL

Lol that was the first thing I saw too.
I wasn't very familiar with the intricacies of curly payos when I babysat a family and had to get the kids dressed in the morning. When their mom came home she burst out laughing and told me I curled the payos backwards, toward the back of their head when they should have been curled toward the front.
I've paid attention ever since. 😃
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  chestnut  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 8:24 pm
Just looked at their Instagram. What's up with their chanukah videos, accompanied by the Silent Night and It's Beginning to Look a lot like x-mas, in Yiddish or German?
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srbmom




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Feb 22 2023, 8:38 pm
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I just don't understand and maybe I keep posting this but this whole situation is completely a red flag and creepy from the beginning. Maybe I have men issues but please ladies... the second you hear a man fosters 9 boys you don't automatically think pedophile? Is it just me?

This forum is not anon so I won't give too many details but I do have some knowledge about the story. People in the area definitely thought something was up and tried to incriminate him. I think I heard he even moved to a different part of the city at one point because too many people were getting suspicious.
Sadly, many of these kinds of cases go on for years because CPS is so overwhelmed and would rather just close the case than actually try and dig anything up
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