Don't expect influencers not to read your posts about them

chanatron1000 ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 11:38 am

At least, don't expect frum female influencers not to read your post about them on any forum here, because there's no reason they wouldn't be here just like any other frum women. And don't expect anything posted on the public forums not to get to the people they're about. You can't be surprised when you try to talk about people behind their backs in public and they find out about it.

amother

Coral ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 11:41 am

chanatron1000 wrote:

I have zero respect for those people

amother

Goldenrod ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 11:58 am

chanatron1000 wrote:

Most influencers find out about imamother posts because one or afew posters has made it their business to go tattle to influencers whenever they're discussed. Influencers aren't discussed here every day, only when something outrageous has occurred.
Being a famous influencer comes along with them being discussed when they put outrageous things out in the public.

↑ chanatron1000 ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 11:59 am

amother Goldenrod wrote:

Why are you so sure of that?

amother

Aconite

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 12:09 pm

People who tattle to them are the issue and let’s be real most aren’t on here and are sent screenshots. So who are the rats that keep doing it.

↑ chanatron1000 ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 12:34 pm

amother Aconite wrote:

People who tattle to them are the issue and let’s be real most aren’t on here and are sent screenshots. So who are the rats that keep doing it.

Um, it's not unrealistic they'd be here. Also, it's their job to manage their image.

But what really stands out here is the audacity of suggesting that the "rats" are the people who make it a little harder to get away with speaking vile lashon hara about Jewish women without their knowledge.

amother

Red ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 12:51 pm

Please realize that just like there is an obligation not to speak "vile" Loshon Hora, there are also obligations and times when one is required to speak up.

When a person presents themselves as frum and is publicly spreading vile anti-Torah views, is harming young impressionable girl's neshamos, is subtly steering people away from the Torah, etc. it may just be an obligation and a Mitzvah to speak out against them and protest - and warn people so that they (and their children) are not harmed. Speak to a competent Rabbi about this.

TravelHearter

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 1:39 pm

amother Red wrote:

Right, but the halachos aren’t so simple. The people who post LH using the above reasoning without learning/asking the halachos, are just using this reason to spread lashon hara. As with most sensational threads, stay polite and courteous and when in doubt say nothing.
The posters who rant and rave are usually just saying LH with no toeles. And no, I am not talking about specific threads. Just from my time/experience on here.

amother

Cappuccino ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:10 pm

Yeah it’s the internet.

Why do people think their comments would stay private.
These influencers have family and friends.
The Frum world isn’t that large.

Of course they will find out about it.

If you don’t want them to read something, then simply don’t write about it.

Otherwise they have every right to discuss them being discussed.

It goes both ways.
If you discuss someone from another platform, they are going to discuss you and your platform.

amother

Lightblue

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:19 pm

Influencers want you to discuss them here and everywhere. More publicity for them and they love to be talked about and discussed. More content for them as well.

amother

↑ Goldenrod ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:19 pm

amother Cappuccino wrote:

Our posts are copyrighted and it's against rules to publicize or send around screen shots of posts.

BrisketBoss

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:20 pm

amother Goldenrod wrote:

Our posts are copyrighted and it's against rules to publicize or send around screen shots of posts.

You're both right.

amother

↑ Cappuccino ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:22 pm

amother Goldenrod wrote:

Our posts are copyrighted and it's against rules to publicize or send around screen shots of posts.

So it’s okay for you to talk about them, but not okay for them to talk about you.
Got it.

amother

Honeydew

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:30 pm

“Influencers” (quote’s because the word doesn’t match what they actually are) are normal people who happened to have become famous. On Instagram. Yay them. Why is it ok to speak badly about them?

amother

↑ Goldenrod

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:36 pm

amother Cappuccino wrote:

So it’s okay for you to talk about them, but not okay for them to talk about you.
Got it.

I did not say that it's ok to talk about them here. Threads can be locked and removed. It's not ok to screen shot and publicize threads.
The poster that makes it her business to tattle to every influencer being discussed here, is doing a horrible thing and should be banned.

↑ chanatron1000 ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:38 pm

amother Red wrote:

Please realize that just like there is an obligation not to speak "vile" Loshon Hora, there are also obligations and times when one is required to speak up.

Like when someone is s-xually harassed, and you have to speak up to say it's probably them who orchestrated it for views?

amother

Lawngreen

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 2:39 pm

amother Goldenrod wrote:

It’s also rechilus

amother

↑ Cappuccino

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 3:08 pm

amother Goldenrod wrote:

I doubt it’s one poster.

They have family and friends here. The frum world is a small place.
It’s impossible to expect that they shouldn’t find out.

alef12 ↓

Mon, Jan 16 2023, 3:14 pm

amother Honeydew wrote:

I don't know. But somehow many people think that the laws of loshon horah go out the window when a person is a public figure. I literally just posted a thread about this...