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Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 9:04 pm
keym wrote:
1) either the mekoshesh aitzim
2) one of the misoninim?

ETA the passuk is clear he WASN'T part of Korach Vadaso


Um. I didn't check, but to the best of my memory, he was from the Maapilim. I think Rabbi Akiva says that?

I only remember it because the second answer actually fits in very well with the story of the Bnos Tzelafchad. The Ma'apilim showed a love for Eretz Yisroel by leaving the camp and forcing their way to go to EY. They were wrong, but it came from a strong desire to show Hashem that they were not ready to wait 40 years to go to EY. The daughters of Tzelafchad also were known to love the land, Rashi says that about them. So it makes sense that they got their love from their father (and before him from Yosef who was their ancestor.)

This just occurred to me now as I was typing this, but I remember learning that the Bnos Tzelafchad were older singles at the time of "lama nigara" . They were in their 40s.
If their father died 40 years earlier, it makes sense, that they couldn't find a good shidduch and now they were in their 40s. (Don't quote me on this, I don't know if anyone says this, I just made it up. But I think it works.)
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Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 9:31 pm
b.chadash wrote:
Bamidbar, 31:6 (second Rashi)

Thank you so much!
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  abmom  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 9:58 pm
amother [ OP ] wrote:
Can you clarify where this is from? I just asked my husband and he said he never heard of this.



https://ask-dh.org/תפילה-2/תפילת-הדרך/תפילת-הדרך-הלכות/ See ה and ו
ask-dh wrote:

ה. אמירתה ב"שמע קולנו" – כיון שישנה מחלוקת בחתימת הברכה, ישתדל אדם לומר את "תפילת הדרך" בתוך "שמע קולנו" בתפילת י"ח הסמוכה ליציאתו, ויחתום בברכת: "כי אתה שומע תפילת כל פה" וכו'[5].

ו. אמירתה בלי חתימה – אם לא אמר תפילת הדרך ב"שמע קולנו", יאמר אותה בלי חתימת השם אלא יחתום: "ברוך אתה השם שומע תפילה"[6]. וטוב שיסמיכה לברכה אחרת (כגון: ברכה אחרונה, "אשר יצר" וכדו')[7].

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[5] עי' מג"א סי' ק"י ס"ק י"ג, ובשו"ת מאמר מרדכי ח"ג סי' ה'.

[6] עיין ברכי יוסף סימן תקפ"ב ס"ק ג', ובשדי חמד אסיפת דינים מערכת ראש השנה סימן ג' אות ד', ואסיפת דינים מערכת ברכות סי' א' אות י"ג שכך הבין את הברכי יוסף וחלק עליו.

[7] מג"א סי' ק"י ס"ק י"ג. בא"ח פרשת עקב סעי' י"ח. שו"ת מאמר מרדכי ח"ג סי' ה'.



זוהר wrote:

זוהר חלק א קכא/א
ויהיו, רבנן פתחי בהאי קרא, (שיר ז יב) לכה דודי נצא השדה נלינה בכפרים, תנו רבנן היוצא לדרך יתפלל שלש תפלות, תפלה שהיא חובה של יום, ותפלת הדרך על הדרך שהוא עושה, ותפלה שיחזור לביתו לשלום, ולימא להו להני שלשה אפילו באחד יכיל למעבדיה, דתנינן כל שאלותיו של אדם יכיל למכללינהו בשומע תפלה.


וכ"כ בשלחן הטהור (קומארנא) סי' ק"י סעי' ג ובסי' ר"ל סעי' א.

ובספר דברי יצחק (בונין) מביא שכן נהג הרה"ק בעל הדברי חיים מצאנז


the שלחן ערוך הרב also says not to say the shem, so by saying in שמע קולנו it solves that.
שלחן ערוך הרב wrote:
ויחתום ברוך אתה שומע תפלה בלי הזכרת השם...



But you are right according to the Gemara and basic halacha, it is a tefilla that should be said only once on the way.
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 10:20 pm
abmom wrote:
But you are right according to the Gemara and basic halacha, it is a tefilla that should be said only once on the way.

Thank you!!
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 10:23 pm
"A butcher, a baker, and a candlestick maker."

3 separate people from Tanach. (You can be a little creative with these.)
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  theoneandonly  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:03 pm
No one got mine!
Referred to as vinegar: king chizkiyahu Ben achaz was referred to as "yayin Ben chometz" wine the son of vinegar so his father achaz is vinegar
Father and son of an inanimate object: אבנר בן נר! His name is literally father of candle son of candle
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  theoneandonly  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:05 pm
Who didn't do laundry for decades yet didn't smell?
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  theoneandonly  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:08 pm
Who in tanach was morbidly obese?
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  theoneandonly  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:10 pm
Who in tanach celebrated his birthday?
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  theoneandonly  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:11 pm
Who is described as beautiful yet you would never want to be her?
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:12 pm
theoneandonly wrote:
Who in tanach was morbidly obese?


Eglon melech Moav
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  LiLIsraeli  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:12 pm
theoneandonly wrote:
Who in tanach was morbidly obese?


Naval, first husband of Avigail wife of Dovid Hamelech

ETA: I just checked this up, and I don't think this is correct - it says "v'ha'ish gadol me'od" but this seems to be describing his wealth, not his size.


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  abmom  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:12 pm
theoneandonly wrote:
Who didn't do laundry for decades yet didn't smell?

The yiden in the midbar
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  LiLIsraeli  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:13 pm
theoneandonly wrote:
Who in tanach celebrated his birthday?


Pharaoh
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:13 pm
theoneandonly wrote:
Who in tanach celebrated his birthday?


Pharaoh in the days of Yosef
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:13 pm
theoneandonly wrote:
Who is described as beautiful yet you would never want to be her?


Vashti?
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:15 pm
theoneandonly wrote:
No one got mine!
Referred to as vinegar: king chizkiyahu Ben achaz was referred to as "yayin Ben chometz" wine the son of vinegar so his father achaz is vinegar
Father and son of an inanimate object: אבנר בן נר! His name is literally father of candle son of candle


Oh my. I kept thinking ben ner. But I could remember who that was.. I only come up with Baruch ben Neria, and I knew that wasn't right. Can't Believe It
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  abmom  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:16 pm
b.chadash wrote:
Thank you!!

I grew up knowing that it's l'chatchila to say in shmoneh esra. Didn't know that the gemara and shulchan aruch say the opposite​ until now. Thank you.
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  theoneandonly  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:17 pm
b.chadash wrote:
Vashti?

Not what I was thinking... I'm thinking of someone where the passuk calls them beautiful
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  theoneandonly  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Oct 06 2021, 11:18 pm
Name a passuk that has three words and then those same three words in opposite order
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