Where is this passuk found? Or suggest another passuk

amother

OP ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:21 pm

What is the source of the passuk " ki heim chayeinu v'orech yameinu"?

EtA: I need a passuk or phrase to put on the wall of my classroom...something that says that Torah is not just for study, but it's a blueprint for life, teaches us how to live etc.
Any suggestions?

Icecreammama ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:24 pm

Parshas Nitzavim, perek 30. Pasuk 20

scruffy

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:26 pm

כי קרוב אליך הדבר מאוד בפיך ובלבבך לעשותו

Although I like yours better

amother

Green ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:27 pm

That is a beautiful Pasuk

Also אסתכל באורייתא וברא עלמא

write4right

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:28 pm

It's not a pasuk, it's a phrase from birchos krias shema of maariv.

amother

↑ Green

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:29 pm

writeread wrote:

It's not a pasuk, it's a phrase from birchos krias shema of maariv.

She asked for a pasuk or a PHRASE.
It’s a phrase from the Zohar.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:32 pm

Icecreammama wrote:

Parshas Nitzavim, perek 30. Pasuk 20

Thanks! I looked it up and it actually says " Ki HU chayecha V'orech Yamecha. "

Is there not a passuk that says Ki Heim chayeinu?

↑ Icecreammama ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:32 pm

בכל דרכיך דעהו. Mishlei ג, ו

↑ Icecreammama ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:34 pm

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Thanks! I looked it up and it actually says " Ki HU chayecha V'orech Yamecha. "

Is there not a passuk that says Ki Heim chayeinu?

No, there's no pasuk ki heim Chay einiklach, although it is in maariv

↑ Icecreammama

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:39 pm

there's also no pasuk ki heim chayeinu. The chachomim put it in maariv based on the pasuk ki hu chayecha.

amother

NeonBlue ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:39 pm

Its in birchas krias shema of maariv

amother

↑ NeonBlue

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 4:40 pm

a artscroll siddur might have a footnote with the source

amother

↑ OP ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 5:33 pm

Thanks so much everyone!
Artscroll doesnt have a footnote with a source.
Do you ladies think I'm better off using Ki Hu Chayecha?

EtA. Although it seems that in the passuk in Nitzavim, Ki HU chayecha, HU refers to Hashem. In Mariv, ki heim chayeinu refers to the words of the Torah.

amother

NeonOrange ↓

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 5:59 pm

Is this too basic
Etz chaim hi lemachazikim ba… ( mishlei)

amother

↑ OP

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 6:07 pm

amother [ NeonOrange ] wrote:

Is this too basic
Etz chaim hi lemachazikim ba… ( mishlei)

That's a beautiful passuk but I somehow felt that it wasn't conveying exactly the same idea.

amother

↑ NeonOrange

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 6:12 pm

amother [ OP ] wrote:

That's a beautiful passuk but I somehow felt that it wasn't conveying exactly the same idea.

There may be mefarshim on etz chaim hi with this idea.
imho you can also use the tefilla from arvis.
Owise parshas haazinu is a good place to look. As is tehillim chapter 119

happy chick

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 6:12 pm

I once had a teacher who, after a very loud noisy first day in my class (in high school), came the next day with a huge sign that said "סיג לחכמה שתיקה" 🤭.
Not really relevant to you, but it just reminded me of that.

momtra

Sun, Sep 12 2021, 6:17 pm

הפך בה והפך בה דכולה בה
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