I think ruhami looking into th escreen was her telling us that, yes, you can have your happily ever after.
And as for season 4, Ive read that it is still up in the air.
I really hope they dont make another season. 1 & 2 were great. 3 was eh, not as great and I think if they make another season it will be even worse, to be honest.
Funny. Dh thinks season 3 was by far better than 1 and 2. More realistic.
I enjoyed all 3... I would definitly welcome 4.
Very interesting - at least to me - article on how the producers of Shtisel hired Israeli artists to "capture the tensions faced" by Shtisel.
Until very recently there really was no culture of serious visual arts among Jews. Variety of reasons I suspect including that the Church was an important patron of visual arts because Xtians depended on iconography to mystify the religion and were expressly forbidden to read the Bible as the clergy was the only route - at least until Martin Luther altered that relationship. Jews were encouraged to read and didn't need visual "signs" to mystify the experience.
Of course there was sectarian support for the fine arts by the rich classes but until fairly late in the game, the Catholic Church was the only place employing visual artists.
How the Artists Behind ‘Shtisel’ Brought Akiva’s Journey to Life
Very interesting - at least to me - article on how the producers of Shtisel hired Israeli artists to "capture the tensions faced" by Shtisel.
Until very recently there really was no culture of serious visual arts among Jews. Variety of reasons I suspect including that the Church was an important patron of visual arts because Xtians depended on iconography to mystify the religion and were expressly forbidden to read the Bible as the clergy was the only route - at least until Martin Luther altered that relationship. Jews were encouraged to read and didn't need visual "signs" to mystify the experience.
Of course there was sectarian support for the fine arts by the rich classes but until fairly late in the game, the Catholic Church was the only place employing visual artists.
How the Artists Behind ‘Shtisel’ Brought Akiva’s Journey to Life
I loved Shtisel, and what I'm about to say is not to take away from it.
But, in terms of getting the costumes and such right, these are some of the things that, to me, took away from the authenticity.
1. Most of the characters are dressed very authentically. But there were a few who were not.
In the scene where Lipa goes to hang up signs to find extras for the movie, two men stop him and argue with him. These two men do not look authentic and don't act the part.
Also, Zilberman, (Tzvi Aryeh's chavrusa) did not look authentic, I dont know why, but he didn't.
The low neckline in one scene for Gitty, as well as the short skirt for Shira Levenson and Libby also stand out.
2. Here and there, the characters would mess up a word or hav'arah.
Chanina says "Usevasel" instead of "usevatel."
A few times you hear "Besoros tovos" instead of "besuros tovos"
Also, Lipa says "hakoidesh baruch hu". Lol!
3. Chanina is seen not wearing a yarmulke in the last episode, when he takes his hat off.
4. I think they should have made Rachelli Warburg's father a bit less chassidish looking. Somehow, I think it would have been more fitting if he were a regular chareidi man in a short jacket, maybe a short trimmed beard or clean shaven, without curly payos. Rachelli is clearly a bit to the left of the other shtisel women, from the way she dresses, and her long hair. (Compared to Ruchami, Gitty, Tovi and Libby.)
5. I dont understand how the shidduch with Nechama (the mizrachist) could have ever happened with Sucher, when Sucher was a chareidi yeshiva bachur.
Ok I'm Very Late to this party/thread, but was wondering if someone could explain the finer details in this post, particularly about language and accent? I get the point about "usevsel", but not the ones about "besuros Tovo's" or "hakadosh Baruch hu"
Can someone please
Ok I'm Very Late to this party/thread, but was wondering if someone could explain the finer details in this post, particularly about language and accent? I get the point about "usevsel", but not the ones about "besuros Tovo's" or "hakadosh Baruch hu"
Can someone please
Sure.
They try to make their Hebrew sound more yeshivish so they say Tayre instead of Toyra. That's good.
But they mess up when they say Besoyros toyvoys. It should be Besurois Toyvois. The word besura has a OO sound not Oy. BESUROS not Besoros.
Instead of saying Hakadosh Baruch Hu, he says Hakoydesh baruch Hu.
This is not sounding yeshivish. Its sounding wrong.
hi! opening this thread again bec I want to hear your opinion. who do you think is the most noble character and why? who has the most noteworthy character traits?
Same as octopus. I loved Shulem. Dova’le Glickman is amazing. I have the hardest time thinking of him as a real human being outside his Shtisel persona. The others are all fantastic actors and their characters are intriguing but none strike me as noble. The ones who meld into the chareidi world best are Sasson Gabay (Nuchem) and Neta Riskin (Giti). Impossible to imagine Giti in a tank top and Nuchem can join any minyan in Geulah. Michael Aloni was great as Akiva but I always felt I saw the shaygetz in his eyes.
Cholilah, he's a Yid (as far as I know). Chiloni, if you like, or not yet frum, as I would prefer. Though certainly doing a pretty credible job posing as frum.
[Hey, how did shaygetz get past the censor? They must spell it differently!)]
Same as octopus. I loved Shulem. Dova’le Glickman is amazing. I have the hardest time thinking of him as a real human being outside his Shtisel persona. The others are all fantastic actors and their characters are intriguing but none strike me as noble. The ones who meld into the chareidi world best are Sasson Gabay (Nuchem) and Neta Riskin (Giti). Impossible to imagine Giti in a tank top and Nuchem can join any minyan in Geulah. Michael Aloni was great as Akiva but I always felt I saw the shaygetz in his eyes.
I basically have the same colouring as he dark blond/light brown reddish hair and pale blue eyes you would think I’m a shaygetz too?
I couldn't stand Shulem, I was bursting by the end of the last episode. It looked like he was out to mess whatever he could for his kids.
I really liked Zvi Arye's wife, she is so cool! And I felt for Lippe.
He doesn't have noteworthy traits, but in his talk with Ruchami, when he explains what it feels like to be married at 19 and have to care for a child already, I so felt the burden. I felt, Wow finally someone is talking about these things.
I basically have the same colouring as he dark blond/light brown reddish hair and pale blue eyes you would think I’m a shaygetz too?
I dont think she was calling his a shaygetz because of his coloring. It was because of his character and how he acted verylazy sometimes. Not sure why you thought it was about his coloring.
I thought Ruchami's husband (I forget his name) is a tzaddik.
Very fine noble traits.
He's a bit extreme at first, but he endears himself to the viewer when we hear that he is an orphan. That goes a long way in explaining some of his extreme behaviors.
In the third episode he proves to be a real man.
I also think Tzvi Arye is a very good person. He is not appreciated by his family or anyone.
It was very touching how he gave up the singing career so as not to endanger his marriage.
It was touching also how he is so loyal to his father, despite his father constantly knocking him.
I also think Nechama is gold. She was too good to believe. Nuchem did not deserve her.
Libby is also made out to be a very noble character. She is loyal but has her priorities straight.
I also think Tzvi Arye is a very good person. He is not appreciated by his family or anyone.
It was very touching how he gave up the singing career so as not to endanger his marriage.
It was touching also how he is so loyal to his father, despite his father constantly knocking him.
I also think Nechama is gold. She was too good to believe. Nuchem did not deserve her.
Libby is also made out to be a very noble character. She is loyal but has her priorities straight.
I loved all these characters too.
Also you could see that Nuchem could have ended up a different person had he let himself explore music more.
- article on how the producers of Shtisel hired Israeli artists to "capture the tensions faced" by Shtisel.
