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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 10:27 am
amother [ Coffee ] wrote:
Guess kol isha wasn't an issue, lol
More than it not making sense for a charedi woman to do that, you can't do that in the rabbanut. You need the whole taharas hamishpacha piece!
The minute she started humming I thought of kol isha as well Smile
And the whole getting married right away didnt make any sense. But its a tv show, so.... Smile
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 11:41 am
Anyone have a link not on telegram?
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 11:49 am
I know it's a TV show, but the getting married thing is reeeeeeaaaallllllly stretching it.
I got married in Israel, you cannot have a chupah the day you open your tik.
You need at least 1 kallah class, proof of mikvah, Libbi's death certificate, witnesses that Racheli was never married, etc.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 11:59 am
I thought when they got the print out from the rabbanut and he left the room to get his father, they would run out with it to have the paper without the chuppa!

(But yeah, that's what I have been saying. They could not get married like that!)
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:00 pm
amother [ Coffee ] wrote:
And told Chanina she didn't, and he's not gonna notice if she does get pregnant and not wear a pillow?! I'm so beyond confused. She wants to be open with him and have communication and she keeps on doing things behind his back.



If anything, Chanina went behind her back when the doctor called him and he didn't inform her.
And that doctor should be sued for all he's worth! Patient confidentiality is fundamental.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:01 pm
amother [ Linen ] wrote:
Does anyone else think that Racheli is the surrogate mom and wasnt feeling well the day akiva came to ask her to sign that he worked for .


Possibly, which would explain why she doesn't mind getting married.

She doesn't need the money, but she could be doing it out of the goodness of her heart, which is why of the reasons why she married Akiva.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:05 pm
essie14 wrote:
I know it's a TV show, but the getting married thing is reeeeeeaaaallllllly stretching it.
I got married in Israel, you cannot have a chupah the day you open your tik.
You need at least 1 kallah class, proof of mikvah, Libbi's death certificate, witnesses that Racheli was never married, etc.


Would be easy to get Libbi's death certificate, they probably have that at home. But yes, weird he didn't ask for it.
Proof of mikva - you don't really need that, you can just say you were nidda at the time of marriage. But yes, weird they didn't ask for anything of the sort - guess they don't want to introduce all the complexities of TH into the show.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:41 pm
shabbatiscoming wrote:
So Ive watched through episode 4.
Anyone else? I would love to talk about that episode. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!


Is season 3 out? I have only seen season 2 so far.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:43 pm
Jenmom wrote:
Is season 3 out? I have only seen season 2 so far.


YES!! Run and watch it and don't read this thread, unless you don't care to spoil the many surprises!!
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:45 pm
amother [ Mistyrose ] wrote:
Sorry for one long response, but here are some examples:

-What's with the characters constantly chain smoking? There are many chassidish, yeshivish, chareidi people who don't smoke. It's very stereotypical anti-chareidi.



I live in America but I think smoking is more common among East Europeans, which is I guess where his family descends from.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 2:28 pm
essie14 wrote:
I know it's a TV show, but the getting married thing is reeeeeeaaaallllllly stretching it.
I got married in Israel, you cannot have a chupah the day you open your tik.
You need at least 1 kallah class, proof of mikvah, Libbi's death certificate, witnesses that Racheli was never married, etc.


You do?? Really? Wow, Israel is intense.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 2:55 pm
amother [ White ] wrote:
Would be easy to get Libbi's death certificate, they probably have that at home. But yes, weird he didn't ask for it.
Proof of mikva - you don't really need that, you can just say you were nidda at the time of marriage. But yes, weird they didn't ask for anything of the sort - guess they don't want to introduce all the complexities of TH into the show.

as far as I know you need a proof that you have been in the mikve before the chuppa, you cannot say I鈥榤 nidda because nobody鈥榮 interested if you are nidda (again). obviously they didn鈥榯 want it in the show, especially having explained it already in Srugim at length
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 3:06 pm
amother [ Ginger ] wrote:
as far as I know you need a proof that you have been in the mikve before the chuppa, you cannot say I鈥榤 nidda because nobody鈥榮 interested if you are nidda (again). obviously they didn鈥榯 want it in the show, especially having explained it already in Srugim at length


What if you were supposed to go to the mikva a day or two before the wedding, and you got your period? There will be no proof of going to the mikva, and they are not going to call off the wedding.

In any case, this is off topic, but I find this whole thing so intrusive and demeaning. They don't ask for proof the chosson bought the ring with his own money, they shouldn't ask for proof the kallah dipped. She doesn't even have to dip for it to be a halachic wedding (she might be nidda) so what's the point?
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 3:11 pm
amother [ White ] wrote:
What if you were supposed to go to the mikva a day or two before the wedding, and you got your period? There will be no proof of going to the mikva, and they are not going to call off the wedding.

In any case, this is off topic, but I find this whole thing so intrusive and demeaning. They don't ask for proof the chosson bought the ring with his own money, they shouldn't ask for proof the kallah dipped. She doesn't even have to dip for it to be a halachic wedding (she might be nidda) so what's the point?

Start a spin off Smile
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 3:16 pm
amother [ White ] wrote:
If anything, Chanina went behind her back when the doctor called him and he didn't inform her.
And that doctor should be sued for all he's worth! Patient confidentiality is fundamental.


Ruchami and Chanina are the one part of Shtisel I don't enjoy. They both strike me as a little weird and their relationship is beyond weird. I know this isn't a documentary on chareidim in Jerusalem so if they don't get everything exactly right I'm not complaining, everything overall looks very real. Ruchami and Chanina are a different story. From the beginning when she brought him food and he sat alone learning in a basement it seemed off. Their wedding in the restaurant was ridiculous.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 3:21 pm
when Ruchami calls the surrogative off, how is it technically possible?
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 3:29 pm
essie14 wrote:
I know it's a TV show, but the getting married thing is reeeeeeaaaallllllly stretching it.
I got married in Israel, you cannot have a chupah the day you open your tik.
You need at least 1 kallah class, proof of mikvah, Libbi's death certificate, witnesses that Racheli was never married, etc.


The most crucial aspect are the witnesses who attest that she is single and not an eshet ish.
Without that there is no way they would have allowed the wedding to take place.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 3:34 pm
etky wrote:
The most crucial aspect are the witnesses who attest that she is single and not an eshet ish.
Without that there is no way they would have allowed the wedding to take place.


OMG is this for real what every Israeli wedding requires? Can someone start a spinoff I would love to hear more about this.
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Post Mon, Jan 11 2021, 4:28 pm
etky wrote:
The most crucial aspect are the witnesses who attest that she is single and not an eshet ish.
Without that there is no way they would have allowed the wedding to take place.


Just want to say. I got married in Israel, albeit many many years ago. The rabbis knew my future dh's family and just took my dh's word for it that I was single. They pulled some random witnesses off the street or the adjoining office (don't remember) to attest to that.

So things do happen.
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