“YOU AND YOUR PRAYER BOOK CAN GET OFF!”

↑ Fox ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 1:39 am

chestnut wrote:

Wow Fox, this is really crazy. The attendant's comment to frum men really shows what she's all about.
I'm still not clear about the mask, though. The attendant was passing checking masks a few times and didn't tell anything to your daughter until she was davening from a book. Was her mask not covering her nose all that time and the attendant chose to talk to her only once she was davening?
Do planes now have empty seats on either side of each passenger or she had neighbors who saw her wearing a mask?

The flight attendant didn't say anything until the siddur came out. My daughter was in an aisle seat with no one else on her side of the row.

DrMom ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 2:40 am

Fox wrote:

I can clarify some of the details in this story -- the unidentified woman is one of my daughters.

Small world!

Sounds like your daughter handled herself with aplomb.

amother

Sapphire ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 3:49 am

Hatzlocha Fox!!! to you and your daughter!!!
A fight on behalf of every yid and sane person.
Hope this flight attendant gets fired.
And justice and a healthy precedent gets served.

FranticFrummie ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 4:02 am

I believe it. I had the most atrocious experience on Delta (under Air France).

I won't go into the whole story because I don't want to derail the thread, but DD and I nearly got kicked off of the airplane because we wouldn't change our (prepaid, assigned seats) with a family who hadn't bothered to pay extra to book adjoining seats. The family was French, we were not.

mochamix18 ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 4:13 am

Ugh I’ve had some pretty unfortunate experiences with Delta but nothing like this. Fox Kol Hakvod for raising a daughter who behaves with class in which I’m sure was a very stressful situation. Hatzlacha to you both, hope it gets sorted out.

↑ FranticFrummie ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 4:17 am

Fox wrote:

On the plus side, she was wearing a fabulous handbag. There's no excuse for getting thrown off a plane with a tacky handbag!

This is a crucial part of the story! Why wasn't it mentioned in the article? Wink

↑ mochamix18

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 5:16 am

FranticFrummie wrote:

This is a crucial part of the story! Why wasn't it mentioned in the article? Wink

Right? We wouldn’t expect any less from offspring of Fox

amother

↑ Sapphire ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 5:19 am

well fox if anyone would be able to know best how to handle this going forward it would be you and presumably your kit as well Wink

DallasIma ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 6:39 am

I just posted an angry message on Delta's Facebook page, and I saw that a few other people did also. Companies get nervous when you do that. I hope any Jews who are still flying will boycott Delta.

Another mom

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 7:59 am

Fox - how calm she was! Great Chinuch!!! If we all stop flying Delta and spread it around he Frum world, I'm sure they'll lose money.... Or are we just a tiny percent of their income? What

Raisin ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 8:54 am

I usually fly with my national airline to the USA but one time delta was cheaper. Not only did I have to pay to change my flight when my kid got chickenpox 3 days before (really, you want my kid infecting your whole flight?) they were just really unpleasant to deal with.

Never again!

Absolutely horrified to hear of this experience but unfortunately not surprised after so many similar stories in the past few years.

I think the race of this attendant is irrelevant in the story. No need even to mention it. It could easily have been a white anti semite - they come in all colours!

↑ southernbubby ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 9:12 am

The airlines need to specify what types of face coverings they do or do not allow and have approved masks available for purchase on board and at airport kiosks.
While Jews should be able to pray on the plane, the next time that I fly, I will bring a little tefillas haderech card that won't attract as much attention as a prayer book.

ChutzPAh

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 9:12 am

Just want to chime in to say I’m impressed that your daughter remained so calm despite what she was put through.

amother

Puce ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 9:17 am

southernbubby wrote:

My DH flys weekly for work (mainly delta 🤬). They do give out masks when he goes through security and on his flight every time. But they are nothing special. Just plain cotton white masks.
I can’t imagine anything would be wrong with a blue disposable mask. This is a horrible story. And knowing the connection makes it so much personal.

↑ DallasIma

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 9:18 am

Follow-up: Of course Delta hasn't responded to the angry message I posted on their Facebook page - but 3 other anti-Semites crawled out of the woodwork and posted a "haha" reaction to my post. Very discouraging and scary.

↑ southernbubby ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 9:27 am

amother [ Puce ] wrote:

It's probably better to wear the one that they give you, even if the disposable one is better.
I also think that Jews who fly Delta should leave negative reviews to get their attention on this.
Although I am proud of my religion, an airplane may be the wrong place to show it. Some prayers can be loaded on to a phone so that it is accessible in airplane mode.

↑ number ↓

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 9:40 am

DallasIma wrote:

Social media has been overtaken by BLM right now and yes, it’s a scary place. I think we should all wait for Monday and swarm their phone lines. I’m invested in this story now Wink

↑ chestnut

Sun, Dec 06 2020, 10:30 am

southernbubby wrote:

It doesn't seem to be a problem of the type of a mask, but that the mask fell/wasn't covering the nose?
Is that right, Fox?