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Ruchel ↓

Sun, Jan 27 2008, 3:24 pm

The latest craze, these years, is what in French we call "robe de circoncision". "Circumcizion dress/gown".
I want to start looking for one, in case the next pregnancy is as s*cky as the first and I'm not allowed to go out. Don't tell me to buy it after birth either, because I still couldn't walk more than a few steps for my dd's naming, 18 days after birth. I'm not even sure I'll be able to attend the bris if it's anything like this time, but that's another topic.

Problem is: Dh thinks it's weird that it's a dress. I have never seen a bris, but he has and he says it's weird when the boy is in a lacy, frilly white dress with white little tights and stuff. But it seems more and more people do it. The previous thing was blue pyjamas. But it's passé now.

What is done around you?

AND NO I AM NOT PREGNANT THAT I KNOW OF

Tamiri

Sun, Jan 27 2008, 3:44 pm

The non jews, or should I say non-Jews have Christening gowns, and this is probably along the same lines.
Boys can have their bris in just an undershirt and diaper, but parents want it to be fancy so they put him in a miniature wedding gown.
To each their own.

Mommy3.5

Sun, Jan 27 2008, 9:20 pm

my brit outfit is a stunning christening gown. Its VERY practical for the bris, pull it up, do the deed, pull it down.

GAMZu

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 3:04 am

We borrowed from a bris gemach... Also a gown. It was blue and white knit, not lacy, but still frilly. And the pillow and bunting were very lacy.

I'll see if I have pix.

(Oh, and pants were included, but the mohel said to take them off and swaddle the baby's legs under the gown.)

BlumaG

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 9:47 am

ruchel y did u wait 18 days to name ur daughter?

louche

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 9:56 am

Ruchel wrote:

Dh thinks it's weird that it's a dress.

Tell him that in the 1920's, little boys wore dresses until they were toilet trained. It's eminently practical for diaper-changing. And considering that pants have to come off, anyway, it's eminently practical for a bris.

↑ Ruchel ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 10:11 am

louche wrote:

Ruchel wrote:

Dh thinks it's weird that it's a dress.

I think he's a bit traumatized that his father made him wear lace collars and tights as a kid... LOL

I'll tell him

Bluma: in my family, and in dh's, people didn't do naming ceremonies. Some girls were still named at shul "in passing", others not at all (and yes, in frum families). I decided I wanted a whole ceremony, with guests, and of course with me there. Since we didn't know exactly when she would be born, we chose a random date, that was not shabbes (I wanted to be there, and around here we don't allow new moms to walk around). We had to organize to get minyan on a week day, which is a hard thing in French small towns. So we planned a LOT in advance, as soon as we knew it was a girl. There was also no hurry because there was no minhag of X days after birth. B'h we waited, because I could already hardly attend.

The people that do have a family minhag have very diverse settings. Some name on first occasion (first Torah reading in big cities, first shabbes in others). The mothers do not attend. Some name 2 weeks after. Some one month. Some 6 months. Some one year.

LibraMommy

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 11:11 am

Ruchel, we put on a white knit top and bottom on the baby for the Bris. like a sweater set.

NotInNJMommy

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 12:39 pm

We were so broke and exhausted when ds came 10 weeks early, and his bris was still 4 weeks before his due date, he wore a white cotton layette (like a gown) with little blue stars on it, and borrowed a regular pillow from the mohel (it was at his house)...

although most people do much nicer...the frilly pillow, and nice satiny outift. A gown does make LOTS more sense. Easier access to do what needs to be done and then you don't have to mess around after to get him back in pants...just feed him and let him go to sleep.

They gave ds so much wine he passed out for a whole 5 hours...and it ruined the layette but I keep it still for sentimental reasons.

WeAreOne

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 1:19 pm

There is an inyan to name the baby as soon as possible. A baby shouldn't be left w/o a name stam, from what I heard..

As for the bris outfit, my BIL is a mohel and even though my MIL still has the gown that was used for her DH (my FIL)'s bris and it was used in all the grandsons' brisos, he still asked to stop using it and to just put on a shirt and pants on the baby. I guess its easier because there is less fabric in the way.

↑ Ruchel ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 1:36 pm

Sarah, indeed by the Lubavich they name at the first occasion. But as I said,

Quote:

The people that do have a family minhag have very diverse settings. Some name on first occasion (first Torah reading in big cities, first shabbes in others). The mothers do not attend. Some name 2 weeks after. Some one month. Some 6 months. Some one year.

No reason for them to change their minhag. As for those who don't really have a practice, they can do what they want...

My own rav said to do what the minhag is, and if there is no set minhag, to do what we could/want. I told him in both families, often girls weren't named (at all) in synagogue, and he said indeed some do not do it, he personally thinks it is good to do it, but we don't have to name her at shul. Of course I wanted, but still.

I know cultural differences often shock on this board, but that's life.

greentiger ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 1:39 pm

A year???

↑ Ruchel ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 1:45 pm

Yes, one year. According to what I have been told, they came from a part of the world where life was horribly difficult, and many babies would die before 1 year. This was probably a way of protecting their feelings.
I would have found it hard if it had been my minhag, but please can we respect other frum Jews?

↑ greentiger ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 1:51 pm

No disrespect meant. I just never heard of it so it's a bit shocking.

↑ Ruchel ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 2:02 pm

okay

I'm just a bit "reactive" because I remembered last time I mentioned something "not done in America" I was called conservative lol

↑ greentiger ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 2:04 pm

Just curious, wouldn't they then need to name the baby after it dies?

↑ Ruchel ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 2:08 pm

Honestly I don't know... I didn't ask for more details, because it wasn't a pleasant topic... maybe it wasn't named? are babies who did before the bris named? I don't know bli ayn hara of the topic...

gamekeeper

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 2:08 pm

I think that a dress-but not too frilly (as there is too much fabric all over then) is that most practical as well! I know will my boys, I didnt want the mohel finecking around with a screaming boy trying to put pants back on... just slip it down and then mine had a draw string so it held him tight and voila....

Hannah!

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 2:35 pm

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↑ Ruchel ↓

Mon, Jan 28 2008, 2:46 pm

I know one couple (who in turn have cousins who do the same). They say, the modern ones call the child by her name anyway (just like, in my circles, people use the name before the bris), but the traditional use pet names from their language (Judeo-Arabic). It is interesting between I heard the Muslims in the same areas also don't give a name before a long time!

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