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  ChanieMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 8:33 am
malki2 wrote:
Oh my. This is a serious one.

Computer scientists' special...
...that's a clue...
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:05 am
ChanieMommy wrote:
OK. Here comes a really hard one. Malki, beware!

Still an evil king, still a cynic, still wants to seem benevolent.

This time, you are not imprisonned alone, but together with a friend.

Here is what the king proposes:

tomorrow, you (singular) will be lead to a room with a chessboard. On each field of the chessboard, there will be a coin, either on heads or on tails. I will tell you under which field of the chessboard the key to your freedom is hidden.

You will be allowed and obliged to turn over one single coin that you can choose freely. Then you will be lead out of the room.

Right after you leave, your friend will be lead in, she will find the chessboard as you left it. If she can find the key in one guess, both of you will be freed. If not, both of you will be hanged.

Now you and your friend have the night to deliberate about a strategy. Once you see the chessboard, you will not be able to communicate with your friend.

Are the coins in a random pattern either heads or tails?
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abmom  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:07 am
ChanieMommy wrote:
OK. Here comes a really hard one. Malki, beware!

Still an evil king, still a cynic, still wants to seem benevolent.

This time, you are not imprisonned alone, but together with a friend.

Here is what the king proposes:

tomorrow, you (singular) will be lead to a room with a chessboard. On each field of the chessboard, there will be a coin, either on heads or on tails. I will tell you under which field of the chessboard the key to your freedom is hidden.

You will be allowed and obliged to turn over one single coin that you can choose freely. Then you will be lead out of the room.

Right after you leave, your friend will be lead in, she will find the chessboard as you left it. If she can find the key in one guess, both of you will be freed. If not, both of you will be hanged.

Now you and your friend have the night to deliberate about a strategy. Once you see the chessboard, you will not be able to communicate with your friend.

Hey I just found this thread! Really enjoying although I'm not great with riddles.

Hidden: 

Put some black dust on your finger, it will leave a fingerprint on the coin you turn.


Too easy, so probably not the right answer. But a good idea anyway LOL


Last edited by abmom on Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:08 am; edited 1 time in total
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:07 am
Guess one

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Get your hand oily so you will leave some sorta imprint on the coin
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:09 am
Guess two

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Once you flipped the coin put it in the corner of the field so it touches the top and side edge
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:09 am
Abmom I didn’t check yours yet but mine are too easy to be true too.
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:12 am
Guess 3

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Guy #1 flips the right coin, Guy #2 brings along a fingerprint detector
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:12 am
They didn’t need all night to think of my brilliant strategies
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  malki2  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:20 am
ChanieMommy wrote:
Computer scientists' special...
...that's a clue...


I know. And I’m not a computer scientist.
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  malki2  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:21 am
ExtraCredit wrote:
Guess 3

Hidden: 

Guy #1 flips the right coin, Guy #2 brings along a fingerprint detector


If you could use a fingerprint detector then you wouldn’t need to flip a coin. Just touch it. This one has a serious solution. It needs an algorithm which I don’t have time for now.
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  pause  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:21 am
malki2 wrote:
I know. And I’m not a computer scientist.

Wow, I'm super impressed! I'll be honest: I googled the answer and still don't understand it. I thought I need to be a computer scientist to get it, but I guess I'm just not as smart as you.


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  abmom




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 9:22 am
ExtraCredit wrote:
Abmom I didn’t check yours yet but mine are too easy to be true too.

Mine is pretty much the same as your first guess.
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  doodlesmom  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 10:46 am
pause wrote:
Wow, I'm super impressed! I'll be honest: I googled the answer and still don't understand it. I thought I need to be a computer scientist to get it, but I guess I'm just not as smart as you.


Way above my pay grade.
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  ChanieMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 10:49 am
ExtraCredit wrote:
Are the coins in a random pattern either heads or tails?

Yes. It can be any pattern.

You get to see it once, flip one coin, and now your partner should know where the key is.
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  ChanieMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 10:53 am
abmom wrote:
Hey I just found this thread! Really enjoying although I'm not great with riddles.

Hidden: 

Put some black dust on your finger, it will leave a fingerprint on the coin you turn.


Too easy, so probably not the right answer. But a good idea anyway LOL


That's a very original one, but not the intended answer.
there is a (rather complex) possibility of communicating the answer unambiguously with just one coin flip.
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  ChanieMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 10:55 am
ExtraCredit wrote:
Guess 3

Hidden: 

Guy #1 flips the right coin, Guy #2 brings along a fingerprint detector


Those are all very good ideas, but will not be tolerated by the evil king... Confused Sad Confused
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  ChanieMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 3:20 pm
A small, polygamous paesant dies and leaves 14 cows and 3 wives.

His will states:
I leave half of my cows to my first wife
I leve a quarter of my cows to my second wife
I leave an eight of my cows to my third wife.

No cow shall be killed to split the estate.

the wives are racking their brains. They decide to go and see the wise man of the village.

He finds a solution immediately...

What does he do?

How does he split the herd?
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 3:24 pm
ChanieMommy wrote:
A small, polygamous paesant dies and leaves 14 cows and 3 wives.

His will states:
I leave half of my cows to my first wife
I leve a quarter of my cows to my second wife
I leave an eight of my cows to my third wife.

No cow shall be killed to split the estate.

the wives are racking their brains. They decide to go and see the wise man of the village.

He finds a solution immediately...

What does he do?

How does he split the herd?


He must be brilliant if he found a solution immediately! I need some time here!
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  ExtraCredit  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 3:28 pm
Hidden: 

He brings 2 cows of his own to get a total of 16
Half of that is 8 to the first wife
Quarter of that is 4 to the second wife
An eighth of that is 2 to the third wife
Total 14, so he takes his 2 back Hooray
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  ChanieMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Sep 24 2020, 3:31 pm
ExtraCredit wrote:
Hidden: 

He brings 2 cows of his own to get a total of 16
Half of that is 8 to the first wife
Quarter of that is 4 to the second wife
An eighth of that is 2 to the third wife
Total 14, so he takes his 2 back Hooray


Yeah!

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

You are quick indeed!

Extra credit:
Ice cream Ice cream Ice cream

Although the season is almost over now...
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