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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:40 pm
When we read the word זכיות, we do read it zechiyois.

How did סלטים come about from salads?
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:43 pm
ChanieMommy wrote:
Ah, so in yiddish those words have a different grammar than in lashon hakodesh.

In lashon hakodesh it is

Shtut (or you would say: stis) - stuyot (stiyes?)

Shabat (shabbos) - shabbatot (shabbosses?)

Torah - Torot (tojres)

Zechut (zchis) - Zechuyot (zchiyes)

Bsura (bsire?) -bsurot (bsires?)

Chuppa (chippe?) -chuppot (chippes?)

Last 4 we do say like that
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:44 pm
dankbar wrote:
Correction: zechissim & zechuyot


zechissim & zechiyes...
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:46 pm
No question? I’ll go...
Why in heavens name am I still up?


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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:47 pm
Language is funny the way it evolves. How about Yinglish were new words formed in yiddish language that combines bits of English & Yiddish combined thus forming new words that are neither English, nor Yiddish but are commonly used in speech.
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:47 pm
ChanieMommy wrote:
zechissim & zechiyes...

Both are used by the way
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:48 pm
ExtraCredit wrote:
No question? I’ll go...
Why in heavens name am I still up?


To learn new languages
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:48 pm
dankbar wrote:
When we read the word זכיות, we do read it zechiyois.

How did סלטים come about from salads?


But why "bsires", but "zechiyois"? it's the same -ot... (or -oss)

About salatim:
Salat ends in tet,not in tav...
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:54 pm
Zechiye is zechiyos
Like besirah is besiros both ending in ה

זכות ends in ת
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:56 pm
ChanieMommy wrote:
But why "bsires", but "zechiyois"? it's the same -ot... (or -oss)

About salatim:
Salat ends in tet,not in tav...


Ye but in English plural is "s" and word is deriven from English like many Hebrew words stem from English and adapted into Hebrew language with Hebrew rules & grammar
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Post Tue, Sep 22 2020, 11:58 pm
ChanieMommy wrote:
That was actually the last question...

the rimon was still a bit pink, but not sour.

Do you think the color of the grains in the rimon depends on how ripe it is or on some other factor like genetics?


Ripeness
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:01 am
dankbar wrote:
Ye but in English plural is "s" and word is deriven from English like many Hebrew words stem from English and adapted into Hebrew language with Hebrew rules & grammar


Ah, so in english it would be salads...

I suppose salatim is Ivrit...

But they adapt the plural to the plural in ivrit, because they incorporate the word into the language...

Like the verb "lehashvitz" -they take the verb and treat it as if it was a hebrew verb...
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:02 am
ChanieMommy you seem like you are well integrated into both worlds & are fluent in both languages with all different dialects. Bravo to you?
May I ask, how you came about your expertise?
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:05 am
ChanieMommy wrote:
Ah, so in english it would be salads...

I suppose salatim is Ivrit...

But they adapt the plural to the plural in ivrit, because they incorporate the word into the language...

Like the verb "lehashvitz" -they take the verb and treat it as if it was a hebrew verb...

What does that mean?
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:05 am
dankbar wrote:
Zechiye is zechiyos
Like besirah is besiros both ending in ה

זכות ends in ת


I don't think there is a word "zechiye" in lashon hakodesh...

There is the word zechut, and it's plural is zechuyot (zechiyos)

There are a few female words ending in ת, mainly abstract words formed from verbs, ending in -ut (-us? -is?) like malchut (malchuyot), kenut (honesty), yeshut (essence), etc...
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:06 am
dankbar wrote:
What does that mean?


lehashvitz means to brag...
shvitzer- bragger
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:07 am
dankbar wrote:
ChanieMommy you seem like you are well integrated into both worlds & are fluent in both languages with all different dialects. Bravo to you?
May I ask, how you came about your expertise?


I learned...

מכל מלמדי היסכלתי

Which two languages do you mean?


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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:09 am
We have new words in Yiddish

Walk+גיין= voken
Color+ פארבען=koloren
Painten

They add the n to end of any English Verb to make it into a Yiddish verb
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:12 am
dankbar wrote:
We have new words in Yiddish

Walk+גיין= voken
Color+ פארבען=koloren
Painten

They add the n to end of any English Verb to make it into a Yiddish verb


Yes, it's the same principle as "lehashvitz" - you take the verb and conjugate it according to yiddish rules - walk - walken...
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Post Wed, Sep 23 2020, 12:14 am
ChanieMommy wrote:
I don't think there is a word "zechiye" in lashon hakodesh...

There is the word zechut, and it's plural is zechuyot (zechiyos)

There are a few female words ending in ת, mainly abstract words formed from verbs, ending in -ut (-us? -is?) like malchut (malchuyot), kenut (honesty), yeshut (essence), etc...


We do say in Yiddish, I had the "zechiye" to meet you ( the honor, the merit)

Zchus is also merit like mitzvos
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