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amother
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 Mon, Dec 10 2018, 6:30 pm
| sequoia wrote: | | The teachers give them to the kids? |
In my son's (yeshivish) school some kids brought them. When I brought it up to the principal he agreed with me that they were not good and he personally went around and told the kids they weren't allowed.
My son told dh that he has a smartphone and they are bad for you and if u have one u can die.
Terrible chinuch. Especially when many many parents have smartphones or even if they don't many basic phones look like smartphones nowadays.
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Tzutzie
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 8:00 pm
They were banned in cheder here.
Terrible terrible chinuch.
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amother
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 8:09 pm
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They where banned in a majority of chassidish schools. They teach the boys to walk up to ADULTS with smartphones and start cursing and screaming at them. I've had more than once a boy started screaming at me. This is sheer unbelievable chutzpa. If a parent wants their child to know that smartphones are a no no, they can teach the kids that for some it's ok but for us its not.
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amother
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 8:24 pm
| sequoia wrote: | | The teachers give them to the kids? |
I don't think so.
They were banned in most chassidish chedarim.
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 9:05 pm
That’s insane.
Sounds like the person who started them was not all there.
Teaching kids to walk up to random adults and start screaming and cursing at them is dangerous for the kids, besides all else!
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amother
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 9:13 pm
I bet you that these kids had no idea what a smartphone is or what the word means before this whole movement was started.
I always say the these people starting these type of movements are just opening the eyes and minds to kids and teens that have no idea what a smartphone is. They're giving them all the info needed on devices that they would otherwise not know.
DH and me both have smartphones and I dont think my kids even know this word.
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amother
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 9:26 pm
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my sons school in lakewood banned shmira cards. instead they now collect Mesorah Cards. THey are cards with pesukim on it.
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HonesttoGod
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 10:54 pm
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My son got these in school last year and I was so mad when I saw it I banned them from the house. This week they suddenly came home with a whole pile as they started circulating again and I was so upset. Thankfully both my kids know how stupid it is and I keep saying it so they threw them all out but I wish these things did not exist it is disgusting!
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jewishmommy1
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Mon, Dec 10 2018, 11:25 pm
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My Lakewood school banned them. The principal told the boys that the cards are not derech eretz and they are not allowed in yeshiva.
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amother
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 2:12 am
Who is behind the shomrim cards?
A very erlicha yid who was niftar this week.
Whether or not they are to your taste, keep your thoughts to yourself. This yid had great intentions and in a world where smartphones and internet have destroyed many homes and addiction is far from rare, he took action and for that alone deserves praise, while the rest of us just push this rapidly growing problem under the rug.
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marvelous
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 2:57 am
| amother wrote: | Who is behind the shomrim cards?
A very erlicha yid who was niftar this week.
Whether or not they are to your taste, keep your thoughts to yourself. This yid had great intentions and in a world where smartphones and internet have destroyed many homes and addiction is far from rare, he took action and for that alone deserves praise, while the rest of us just push this rapidly growing problem under the rug. |
I second that. In a world where the parents are far gone with their smartphones - these shomrim cards appeal to the purity and innocence of yiddishe kinder. My son collects these - I have no objections - I do not have a smartphone. To me the pictures on these cards really do reflect reality - albeit exaggerated.
My husband and I do not have smartphones and I am happy that my son sees so much public pressure against it. We do have many relatives who have smartphones and I've explained to my son (quietly) that we choose not to have those because it is not goo for our yiddishkeit. ALong with that my son learns to respect other people while still sticking to our principles.
May this man merit Gan Eden in the zechus of his hishtadlus. And may these zechuyos completely overshadow the few instances of chutzpa that is caused.
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amother
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 3:47 am
In response to fuchsia and marvelous.
I learn Torah on my Smartphone. I get several short What'sApp shiurim everyday from Charedi, Modern Orthodox, Chabad and JPF sources. They assume I have a smart phone. They have WhatsApp discussion groups on the material im the shiuim. My Rebetzin told me to get What'sApp. One of the Torah teachers who sends out the shiurim once sent me a voice message via WhatsApp to answer a question on a shiur which I had emailed her. She prefaced it with "it's this the greatest thing in the world...!"
Cheesed meals, minyanim and Tehilim groups are organized through these devices.
And no one no one no one who sends out this stuff has EVER said a disparaging word against another group of Jews. Or non Jews.
Plus there's Torah Anytime, Naaleh and the many other websites that allow mw to listen to shiurim when I am driving to meetings and so on. Time that would otherwise be wasted.
The tool is parev, it can be used for good or evil. Like most other things that exist in the world.
To disparage Jews who do the things I have listed is, as I said before, at best misguided. I'll be DLKZ and assume that is what it is.
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imasoftov
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 4:48 am
| Fuchsia amother wrote: | Who is behind the shomrim cards?
A very erlicha yid who was niftar this week. |
OK, let's leave his name out and if anyone has taken over name that person.
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 4:53 am
| marvelous wrote: | | ... these shomrim cards appeal to the purity and innocence of yiddishe kinder |
If innocent yiddishe kinder are "chuzpadig and disrespectful", we may have different expectations ...
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 5:26 am
| thunderstorm wrote: | | The man that started the shomrim cards passed away suddenly last week at his child's sheva brochos. |
Not saying you're wrong, I'm just surprised that I didn't find any sites that approve of these cards posted "great tzaddik dies, who will take over this holy task?"
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amother
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 6:44 am
| amother wrote: | Who is behind the shomrim cards?
A very erlicha yid who was niftar this week.
Whether or not they are to your taste, keep your thoughts to yourself. This yid had great intentions and in a world where smartphones and internet have destroyed many homes and addiction is far from rare, he took action and for that alone deserves praise, while the rest of us just push this rapidly growing problem under the rug. |
This post makes me want to vomit
There are ways to so things. This is NOT the way.
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FranticFrummie
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Tue, Dec 11 2018, 7:36 am
I could be wrong, so please correct me, but Honor Your Mother and Father was still in the Top 10 last time I checked.
Smartphones, not so much. How is a computer any better than a smartphone anyway? You still have access to the internet.
I agree with the poster who said that technology is parve. You can take a heavy metal wrench and use it to build a sturdy sukkah, or you could bash your neighbor's brains in. Is it the tool's fault? Ban wrenches!
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