best product to IMPORT from Israel or Europe ?

↑ cassandra

Thu, Feb 24 2011, 5:22 pm

zipporah wrote:

cassandra wrote:

farm wrote:

You are curious about halachos and the sources for the way we pasken things or what I buy, cook or serve in my house?

The thing that started it is that YOU said that YOU don't feel comfortable eating something that has a trace amount of treif in it. So I was curious if you based it on a feeling, your own interpretation of the halacha, or a psak. Because it seems from the other Europeans that it is an accepted practice.

Btw, according to the link Rashba seems meikil and it seems like R. Akiva Eiger is the one who holds the way you hold.

I don't think the Rashba sounds meikil. It looks to me like it was the Taz. I'm pasting in here for the filtered:

The Consequences: If One Intentionally Nullified A Prohibited Substance

Based on a mishna (Orla 3:8) cited by the gemara (Gitin 54:), most rishonim rule that if one intentionally nullifies an issur, the mixture remains prohibited. This is in order to discourage such behavior. While many rishonim (Rambam, Rosh, etc.) assume that the mixture is prohibited only to the person who nullified the issur, the Rashba insists that the mixture is also prohibited to the party for whom the issur was intentionally nullified (nitbatel bishvilo)! The Shulkhan Arukh accepts the position of the Rashba.

The acharonim debated a fascinating, and very practical, question. Who constitutes "nitbatel bishvilo"? Must the person know that the issur was nullified for his sake? What about a baker who intentionally adds a minute quantity of a non-kosher ingredient to his baked goods? The Taz (Y"D 99:10) rules that while his family may not partake of the food, others may. Rabbi Akiva Eiger (YD 99), though, insists that the food is prohibited.

Some acharonim are more lenient if the baker is not Jewish (see Darkhei Teshuva 108:2).

I stand corrected, zipporah. I had four kids jumping on me past bed time when I attempted to read this and respond, and I did not read carefully.

↑ Raisin

Thu, Feb 24 2011, 6:47 pm

it is not a kashrus orginisation givng a hechsher. They are calling up the company, who makes a product (mayonnaise) that is sold to millions of customers all over Europe. Maybe about 20,000 people care if this product is kosher Probably far less. The rabbanim put this product on the list of acceptable kosher products.

I guess if it was a bakery selling mostly to jewish people and advertising itself as a kosher bakery it would be far more problematic.

why is this ok when products made on the same lines as non kosher items are not ok? eg uk made marmite.

↑ Mrs Bissli

Fri, Feb 25 2011, 7:42 am

farm and for others who woud prefer not to consume foods based on batel beshishim, I hope you guys are not using any canned foods for consitency's sake. In case you're not aware, in most commercial caning operations I'm aware of, cans are first smeared with a very thin layer of glycerine-derivative whose kashrut status cannot be certified because the amount used is so miniscule.

↑ zipporah

Fri, Feb 25 2011, 9:40 am

cassandra wrote:

zipporah wrote:

cassandra wrote:

farm wrote:

You are curious about halachos and the sources for the way we pasken things or what I buy, cook or serve in my house?

I stand corrected, zipporah. I had four kids jumping on me past bed time when I attempted to read this and respond, and I did not read carefully.

Don't I know it, Cassandra. I'll let you know when I get this 1 year old growth off my arm so I can type. Smile