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  MaBelleVie  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 6:45 am
Sarahd, thanks for elaborating. You're right about people here not buying food without a hechsher on the packaging- its not really on their radar.

I don't doubt the kashrus of thomy- I think people don't realize how much stricter the rabbanim in Europe are when allowing an item to be put on the list, vs the relative laxity when institutions like the ou here give a hechsher. I'm not putting down the ou, just saying that the standards for items on the list in Europe are a lot higher than most here.
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pobody's nerfect  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 6:53 am
DON'T import Thomy mayo! It's our achilles heel in this dieting thing! Having it readily available would make it a million times worse- because, yes, it is WAY WAY WAY better than any mayo you can get over here!
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gp2.0




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 7:01 am
What's thomy mayo? Ketchup and mayo?
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  pobody's nerfect




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 7:06 am
gp2.0 wrote:
What's thomy mayo? Ketchup and mayo?


nope, just 'regular' mayo. it has the highest fat content ever. and is soooo creamy and amazing. it comes in a metal tube like they used to use for diaper rash cream.
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  baba  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 7:17 am
sarahd wrote:
zipporah wrote:
sarahd wrote:
Thomy mayonnaise (á la française) is 100% kosher, you know. The treif ingredient is NOT a problem, as long as it's not being added under hashgacha. If you feel queasy about it you don't have to eat it, but there is absolutely no halachic/kashrus problem with it. Please don't look askance at people who do use it.

I eat Thomy mayonnaise. It's the best mayonnaise in the world, as far as I am concerned.


How much mayonnaise would you have to put in something to notice that it's the best ever? What

It's weird though, Thomy is listed on the Swiss Kashrut list:

Thomy

But I can't vouch for their reliability one way or the other (insert obligatory statement of denial)


The Swiss kosher list is one of the best in the world (not the one you linked to, though. This one: http://www.irgz.ch/Koscherliste110116.pdf) It is extremely reliable, as baba posted above.

Baba, the baby food jars have a lot of additives. They're not pure carrots or whatever.


I guess, but that doesnt mean they cant be kosher. The Dutch list has tons on them.
Btw, I thought the only difference between the ICZ and the IRG list is that the former also has milk products, but they're done by the same rav.
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  DrMom  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 8:09 am
I think I'd feel weird eating something w/a trief ingredient intentionally added to it. What is the ingredient?

And the diaper cream tube analogy didn't do much to endear me to the idea of eating this stuff...
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  sarahd  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 8:17 am
I don't know what the ingredient is, but it's not a major component (obviously: it's less than 2% of the total.)

I use a toothpaste tube analogy. Does that taste better?
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  MaBelleVie  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 8:20 am
I let it slip that I actually prefer Hellmanns to thomy, and my dh proclaimed that just for saying it, I don't deserve to eat the thomy anymore LOL

(I think die-hard thomy fans will get it)
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  DrMom  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 8:30 am
sarahd wrote:
I don't know what the ingredient is, but it's not a major component (obviously: it's less than 2% of the total.)

I use a toothpaste tube analogy. Does that taste better?

That's better. LOL
Now I can get the smell of Desitin out of my mind...
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  sarahd  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 8:33 am
baba wrote:
sarahd wrote:
zipporah wrote:
sarahd wrote:
Thomy mayonnaise (á la française) is 100% kosher, you know. The treif ingredient is NOT a problem, as long as it's not being added under hashgacha. If you feel queasy about it you don't have to eat it, but there is absolutely no halachic/kashrus problem with it. Please don't look askance at people who do use it.

I eat Thomy mayonnaise. It's the best mayonnaise in the world, as far as I am concerned.


How much mayonnaise would you have to put in something to notice that it's the best ever? What

It's weird though, Thomy is listed on the Swiss Kashrut list:

Thomy

But I can't vouch for their reliability one way or the other (insert obligatory statement of denial)


The Swiss kosher list is one of the best in the world (not the one you linked to, though. This one: http://www.irgz.ch/Koscherliste110116.pdf) It is extremely reliable, as baba posted above.

Baba, the baby food jars have a lot of additives. They're not pure carrots or whatever.


I guess, but that doesnt mean they cant be kosher. The Dutch list has tons on them.
Btw, I thought the only difference between the ICZ and the IRG list is that the former also has milk products, but they're done by the same rav.


Well, yes and no. The basic list is the IRG list, but the ICZ has a lot of other stuff added to it, besides CS things, that they assume to be kosher but that haven't been checked out, eg. sardines. Also, they have things on there with hechsherim from other rabbanim that they trust, but who aren't named.
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  Tamiri  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 9:21 am
sarahd wrote:
I don't know what the ingredient is, but it's not a major component (obviously: it's less than 2% of the total.)

I use a toothpaste tube analogy. Does that taste better?
Actually, yes. Previously it tasted like Desitin mayo. Now the mayo's got a refreshing mint flavor.
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  Tamiri




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 9:25 am
DrMom wrote:
sarahd wrote:
I don't know what the ingredient is, but it's not a major component (obviously: it's less than 2% of the total.)

I use a toothpaste tube analogy. Does that taste better?

That's better. LOL
Now I can get the smell of Desitin out of my mind...
OMG, I was thinking Desitin too..... not A&D which is much milder than the Desitin anchovy smell.
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freidasima  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 10:25 am
Well as I don't use mayo ever I can't join the debate but I also can't think of anything we have here in EY which is worth bringing to the US that they don't have there already or even better.

I can however think of a few things they have in the USA that you can't get here...decent pickles and gherkins, decent soft doughnuts with powdered sugar or cinammon topping, decent ice cream, and decent puddings such as vanilla or tapioca. However for me they are all in the past...I'm not allowed to eat any of them anymore unless I make them at home totally fatless and without anything processed or dairy...oh well...enjoy while you are young kiddos, you never know what is ahead...
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  sarahd  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 10:53 am
Gosh FS, my mother is ka"h 78 and has no problem eating any of this stuff. How old are you?! shock
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  DrMom  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 11:01 am
MaBelleVie wrote:
Sarahd, thanks for elaborating. You're right about people here not buying food without a hechsher on the packaging- its not really on their radar.

I don't doubt the kashrus of thomy- I think people don't realize how much stricter the rabbanim in Europe are when allowing an item to be put on the list, vs the relative laxity when institutions like the ou here give a hechsher. I'm not putting down the ou, just saying that the standards for items on the list in Europe are a lot higher than most here.

Did the OU give Thomy a hecsher? If not, then to what specifically are you referring? Question
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  MaBelleVie  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 11:26 am
DrMom wrote:
MaBelleVie wrote:
Sarahd, thanks for elaborating. You're right about people here not buying food without a hechsher on the packaging- its not really on their radar.

I don't doubt the kashrus of thomy- I think people don't realize how much stricter the rabbanim in Europe are when allowing an item to be put on the list, vs the relative laxity when institutions like the ou here give a hechsher. I'm not putting down the ou, just saying that the standards for items on the list in Europe are a lot higher than most here.

Did the OU give Thomy a hecsher? If not, then to what specifically are you referring? Question


Sorry if I wasn't clear (on a Monday morning Wink ). No, the OU does not certify Thomy. I was comparing the general standards for kashrus in Europe to the standards applied by American hashgachos such as the OU. In other words, the Rabbanim who compile the Swiss kosher list are much stricter than many of the rabbanim who give hechsherim here in the States.

For example, Thomy is considered kosher despite a non-kosher ingredient, which is batel beshishim. The OU allows far greater leniencies on kosher products.
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JollyMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 6:40 pm
Hi,

I gotta step in here! we are the ONLY (it's an exclusive contract) importers of Tnuva to the West Coast.
Just this past year we brought in tons of yogurts and cottage cheese that were previously barred from US import. The reason you can't get it in NY is that the type of dairy, called "Grade A" is protected by the dairy union. Serioudly. So they can't import it legally.

A law changed in California allowing us to import "Grade A" stuff over here.
So, West Coast Israelis can rejoice.
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wtvr




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 7:23 pm
So once it's imported on the west, can't it be shipped east?
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  JollyMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 9:51 pm
that is correct. it's the law with a fine +prison time +shut down your business
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  JollyMommy  




 
 
    
 

Post Mon, Feb 21 2011, 9:55 pm
cc wrote:
From england. Chevington cheese. Digestive biscuits. Self raising flour.


we also sell Chevinton cheese on West Coast
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