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Motek ↓

Sun, Apr 30 2006, 10:31 am

In the 50's, there was a big problem with Jewish shipping lines desecrating the Shabbos. Even if you set out earlier in the week, came Shabbos and the Jewish sailors would do things that entailed chilul Shabbos.

Nowadays, people don't travel by ship much anymore but cargo is still sent by ship, containers/lifts. And there are numerous problems regarding Shabbos observance in the shipping field. For example, the port of Chaifa desecrates the Shabbos while the port of Ashdod does not. Many people, who don’t know this, prefer to use the port of Chaifa. And cargo shipped by plane, even by well-known airlines like El-Al and C.A.L. is shipped on Shabbos too Sad

TzenaRena ↓

Sun, Apr 30 2006, 10:36 am

What about Fed-ex, international Express mail etc.? Can you send something Erev shabbos, if you know that it will not be delivered before Sunday afternoon?

↑ Motek

Sun, Apr 30 2006, 10:44 am

Are they Jewish-owned companies?

What about putting mail in the mailbox when you know there's a pickup on Saturday?

↑ TzenaRena ↓

Sun, Apr 30 2006, 11:29 am

To be more clear, this package is being sent to Israel and will be delivered Sunday afternoon. Is there reason to suspect that Israeli postal service workers who are very likely Jewish will be handling it on Shabbos, even if delivery is the next day?

supermom ↓

Sun, Apr 30 2006, 3:42 pm

wow motek I didn't know half that stuff. I thought elal doesn't work on shabbos. and as for chaifa why would anyone go through chaifa compared to ashdod? ashdod always gives less problems for overseas lifts and containers.

Brooklynite ↓

Mon, May 01 2006, 12:05 pm

I know people who won't travel with EL-AL for this reason. They prepare the passenger planes on Shabbos when it leaves Motzai Shabbos/Sunday -refueling, etc.

ButterflyGarden

Mon, May 01 2006, 1:35 pm

Quote:

Is there reason to suspect that Israeli postal service workers who are very likely Jewish will be handling it on Shabbos, even if delivery is the next day?

The israeli postal service is closed from noon on friday until 8 am sunday morning.

↑ TzenaRena

Mon, May 01 2006, 1:50 pm

Does that include private postal companies like UPS, Fed-Ex etc.?

and is there a possibility that these companies ship with El-Al (on Shabbos)?

↑ supermom

Mon, May 01 2006, 5:05 pm

Brooklynite wrote:

I know people who won't travel with EL-AL for this reason. They prepare the passenger planes on Shabbos when it leaves Motzai Shabbos/Sunday -refueling, etc.

so which airline do you use?

↑ Brooklynite

Mon, May 01 2006, 5:08 pm

Did I include myself in the people I know? Smile

Continental Airlines also flies direct, as far as I know. There might be others too...

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