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vintagebknyc

Tue, May 13 2014, 1:40 pm

Don't feed the troll, sequoia.

ally

Tue, May 13 2014, 1:44 pm

Think1st wrote:

Who forces you to do that to an innocent baby?

Who claims it saves lives?

Who blames all health problems on someone that refuses ?

Here is some home work 4 u, following is link to UN report, find the states with the lowest infant death rate 2-3 per1,000 compare to USA & Qatar 7 per 1,000 ,& compare the vaccine schedule

http://www.childinfo.org/files.....n.pdf

I'm sorry the irony was lost on you.

Sherri

Tue, May 13 2014, 1:50 pm

Think1st wrote:

Anyone MD or not who did their homework knows, that vaccine are the prime cause of Autism Asthma Cancer Infertility, section 13 on most vaccine inserts

http://vactruth.com/vaccine-inserts/

I do not usually visit these threads, but is this a claim that those who choose not to vaccinate all believe? ie. is this standard perspective?

amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 1:54 pm

Think1st wrote:

Cholera where is it today ? wow gone without a vaccine Rolling Eyes

Cholera most certainly is not gone from the world, as anyone who bothers to read a newspaper would know.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04.....?_r=0

Think1st wrote:

Vilna goan Paskend when there is real pikuach nefesh eat on yom kipur, did he ever take medication or see a Doctor ? NO

http://ehealthforum.com/blogs/......html

Now concerning this anecdote, Rav Chaim Kanievsky makes two qualifications: one, the GRA's statement only applied to select individuals on a very high level. Two, the GRA's statement that "just as pigs were created for gentiles, so too the path of medicine was created for gentiles" refers to a time when Jews are on the same level as they were at the giving of the Torah. But today, it is certainly appropriate to utilize medicine as we are no longer on such a high level. http://traditionaljewishmedici......html

Do you consider yourself on the same level as the Vilna Gaon?

In any case, you've already told us that you use a doctor for your children, albeit one who does not believe in the germ theory, and who believes that all disease is caused by "blockages."

Think1st wrote:

Igros Moshe also says rather eat on Yom Kipur than a simple medical intervention as installing IV a day before ,Any medical procedure can have side effects MD is not aware of

Anyone MD or not who did their homework knows, that vaccine are the prime cause of Autism Asthma Cancer Infertility, section 13 on most vaccine inserts

http://vactruth.com/vaccine-inserts/

To Anon, please teach me how can I make $ as an anti vaxer LOL

Anyone who does there homework knows that vaccines don't cause autism, etc. Now you MUST believe me. I've said it.

That's all you've done.

How can you make money as an anti-vaxer? Oh, let's see. You can sell snake-oil "chelation" kits. You can write books. You can pimp yourself out like your hero Wakefield, fabricating studies at the request of the trial lawyers who hope to sue vaccine makers. As an "expert" witness. You can sell advertising on your websites that twist statistics and facts. Or in your "magazine."

Did you know that it can take up to 30 to 40 YEARS to move a vaccine from research to approval? That the estimated cost is $200 million to $400 million? And, of course, less than 2% of "Big Pharma's" revenues are from vaccines. From an interesting blog:

Quote:

Let’s take an example of just one infectious disease, measles. According to the CDC, one hospitalization for a serious measles complication costs more than US$142 thousand. Typical cost breakdown of hospital billing indicates that pharmaceuticals and other consumables (syringes, IV’s, saline, etc.) are around 35-40% of the total cost to the patient. Now, a hospital marks up the costs to the patient, so let’s just go with 20% revenue from one measles case flows to Big Pharma, or around US$28,000.

Let’s assume that Big Pharma ended production of all vaccines today, because the evil Big Pharma execs wanted rapidly increase their profits. According to the CDC (pdf), there are about 4 million births in the USA every year. Starting today, those 4 million children annually will not be vaccinated, and the vaccine deniers will be dancing in the streets.

Let’s say in 2016, there’s an outbreak of measles that hits the 12 million US kids who are not vaccinated. Again, according to the CDC, about 30% end up being hospitalized, so of the 12 million or so kids who catch the measles (it’s very contagious, so I’m just going to assume that everyone catches it, which is not far from what would really happen), about 3,600,000 would end up being seriously hospitalized. That would mean one outbreak of one disease in one country would end up giving about 100 billion dollars to Big Pharma. Let’s say that only 10% need serious hospitalization. That’s still over 30 billion dollars.

Wow. So, why aren't those evil Big Pharma people who care about nothing but profits stopping vaccine sales? Because .... uhmmm, ahhhhh ...... Oh, I know. Because measles won't exist even if we stop vaccinating. Its a figment of our imaginations.

I ask you one question at a time now, but you don't bother to answer. But let's try another. Do you have any relationship to the publishers of Peach? Because, as someone else pointed out, while you claim that "vaxi-quack" is a frequently used term it turns out that you are the only one who uses it, according to Google. You use it here, and on Dan's Deals. Both in connection with your touting of Peach Magazine. So, I think we're all entitled to know your connection to the publication.

black sheep

Tue, May 13 2014, 2:38 pm

Vaccines to not cause autism. That false claim has been disproven, and the entire study was a fraudulent study.

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/.....gain/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/......html

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH......html

Frumdoc

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:05 pm

Delusional disorders involve holding fixed beliefs that are definitely false but remain plausible and are believed in strongly by the sufferer. Having a delusional disorder is not a form of schizophrenia, with which it is often confused. Instead, delusions involve situations that can actually occur for the individual for at least a month or more in duration and these beliefs generally appear normal for the sufferer. Overall, the person's behaviors are generally normal apart from the delusional element.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) lists six types of delusional disorders: erotomanic, grandiose, jealous, persecutory, somatic, and mixed. Each of these disorders is explored here to aid in its recognition. And remember as you learn more about these disorders that the mind is an incredible force and is capable of many strange imaginings that it then insists are real.

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Frumdoc

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:06 pm

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/d.....viii/

Popular Delusions VIII: Anti-Vaccine Hysteria

January 25, 2008 By Adam Lee 35 Comments

In all of human history, the invention of vaccination should be classed as one of our greatest medical triumphs. This innovation has saved millions of lives and prevented untold suffering and misery; it has brought many once-epidemic diseases under control, and eradicated others altogether. Tragically, our era has seen a dangerous new strain of pseudoscience emerge, one that threatens all of these gains.

The theory behind vaccines is conceptually simple. Human beings possess an exquisitely evolved immune system with a remarkable ability to learn from experience. For many diseases, once we’ve had them, we develop antibodies that “recognize” the particular pathogen that causes it, giving us lifelong protection against ever catching the same disease again. The innovation was to realize that we could administer killed or weakened germs – not enough to make the recipient sick, but sufficient to trigger the immune system and stimulate it to develop antibodies, so we can gain the immunity without ever having had the disease. In modern times, this technique has been refined by introducing not whole germs, but characteristic molecules that appear in a bacterium’s cell membrane or a virus’ protein coat. Done properly, this is sufficient to trigger the creation of antibodies.

For decades, the benefit of vaccines was unquestioned. But in the last few years, a vehement anti-vaccination movement has erupted. Hysterical, paranoid rhetoric about how doctors and pharmaceutical companies are “poisoning children” for the sake of profit are the stock in trade of this movement, which makes up in shrillness what it lacks in scientific support.

The anti-vaccine movement got its start in 1998, when a British researcher named Andrew Wakefield published a paper in the Lancet. This paper suggested that there was a link between childhood vaccination and autism, claiming that twelve (!) children who had received the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine showed developmental regression soon thereafter. (Ten of Wakefield’s twelve co-authors have subsequently retracted this interpretation, and it’s been reported that Wakefield himself was being paid by trial lawyersseeking to file a lawsuit against vaccine manufacturers. This conflict of interest had not been previously disclosed, and the Lancet‘s editor has said he would not have accepted the paper if he had known about it.)

Despite the collapse of its scientific claims, Wakefield’s paper caused a firestorm. Vaccination rates in the UK showed a significant drop soon afterward. Soon, the antivaccinationists had even identified a supposed causative agent: thimerosal, a preservative that was used in MMR and some other vaccines. The molecular structure of thimerosal contains an atom of mercury, and it was this that antivaccinationists labeled the culprit. Some went so far as to label autism a kind of mercury poisoning – an obvious falsehood for anyone who knows the symptoms of the two conditions.

In response to public fear, scientific bodies such as the CDC asked vaccine manufacturers to remove thimerosal from their products. Although this was an understandable effort to reassure people who were worried, it only added fuel to the fire. Leading antivaccinationists boldly predicted that, as thimerosal was phased out, we would see a dramatic drop in autism rates.

This did not happen. Even after thimerosal was completely removed from vaccines, autism rates continued to rise, confounding the antivaccinationists’ predictions. (This is probably due to better screening and a widening of the diagnostic criteria, rather than a real increase.) In addition, numerous large,well-run studies have failed to find any causal connection between vaccination and autism.

An evidence-based movement would have dwindled away by now, but the antivaccination movement is not based on evidence. It is a pseudoscientific movement based on irrational fear, on obstinate mistrust of the medical establishment, and on the cultish sense of us-vs.-them which the movement’s leaders have taken care to cultivate. The evidence weighing against thimerosal as a cause of autism has grown so overwhelming that even some antivaccinationists can no longer ignore it, but rather than change their position, many of them have simply shifted the cause of concern to conveniently undefined “toxins” (a common, meaningless buzzword of quack-medicine communities), and continue to rail against the medical establishment with equal fervor.

In some respects, vaccines are a victim of their own success: the terrible diseases they were invented to combat have been so effectively defeated that people have forgotten just how bad they were, and so they no longer fear the consequences of not vaccinating. But few of those diseases have been completely wiped out. Instead, they linger on the margins… and when a significant number of people in a community refuse vaccination, they can come back with a vengeance. In one community in Colorado, whooping cough has reemerged, with sometimes fatal results:

In 2000 it killed seventeen people in the United States, including two Colorado babies, both of whom were taken to the hospital too late. “It was very sad,” Tina Albertson, a pediatric resident who cared for one of the infants, told me. “She was a six-week-old girl with a sister and a brother, four and six. The family had chosen not to immunize, and the week she was born, her siblings both had whooping cough. When they’re real little, the babies don’t whoop—they just stop breathing. This little girl was septic by the time they got her here.”

And see also:

“It is a frightening illness to see the paroxysms of coughing, especially in very young children,” Clark said. “They can cough uncontrollably and turn blue and not be able to get a breath. And it’s all so concerning because it is so exquisitely transmissible.”

Worst of all, parents who choose not to vaccinate are putting not just their own families but other people at risk as well. Few vaccines are 100% effective; instead, vaccination as a public health strategy relies on “herd immunity”, the idea that an epidemic can never catch hold in a population of resistant individuals. But even a small number of unvaccinated people can serve as reservoirs of disease, providing a repeated source of exposure and increasing the chances that even people who are vaccinated will get sick. This form of pseudoscience is a particularly vivid illustration of the dangers of credulity.

Frumdoc

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:13 pm

License Revocation of Rebecca Carley, by M.D.Stephen Barrett, M.D.

In 2003, the New York State Board for Professional Medical Conduct (BPMC) found Rebecca Lee Roczen, M.D. (a/k/a Rebecca Lee Carley, M.D) guilty of "practicing while impaired by a mental disability" and "having a psychiatric condition which impaired her ability to practice medicine." Her medical license of was suspended for five years with a provision that her ability to practice could be restored after one year if she sought psychiatric treatment and the psychiatrist recommended that she be considered fit to practice again. In 2004, however, the state's Administrative Review Board for Professional Conduct (ARB) concluded that her thinking was so rigid that the only way to protect the public would be to revoke her license [2]

BPMC documents state that Dr. Carley obtained her medical degree in 1987 from SUNY Downstate in Brooklyn, New York and then took four years of general surgical training but left before completing the residency program. She then enrolled in a physical medicine/rehabilitation residency program, which she left only two months. In addition, the BPMC notes, she "worked in a number of hospital-related positions, all of which she ultimately left because of general dissatisfaction with the staff and/or working conditions." [1] Dr. Carley's Web site states that from 1994 through 1998 she "researched innovative uses of homeopathic and other natural therapies that treat dis-ease at the causal level, rather than covering up symptoms (like the allopathic band aids) while entering motherhood," and from 1998-99, she "developed Hippokrates Systems to detox vaccinations and other toxins on an individual basis in each patient and restore immune system malfunction due to various assaults." [3] The site also states that "The Hippocrates Protocol heals the immune system, it can be used to improve any auto immune disease. Such as: autism, PDD, Asperger's syndrome, Tourette's syndrome, leaky gut syndrome, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, learning disabilities, attention deficit disorder, minimal brain dysfunction, lupus, cancer, asthma, allergies, arthritis, and all other vaccine induced diseases." [3] Previous versions of he home page have stated tht she speecializes in "energy medicine" and in "vaccine-induced diseases (VIDS)." Her "protocol" includes homeopathic products, colloidal silver, and other nonstandard substances.

Reasons for the Suspension

The BPMC decision was based on proceedings that included ten days of hearings held between July 2002 and January 2003. The key testimony appears to be that of Zev Labins, a board-certified psychiatrist who interviewed Carley three times and concluded that she was delusional. As the BPMC documents note:

Dr. Labins found the Respondent to have a delusional disorder with the presence of narcissistic and borderline personality traits. He testified that she has delusions of persecution and grandiosity and that she believes that she is being persecuted because she is special. . . .

Dr. Labins also testified that the Respondent believes that her husband sodomized their son as part of a satanic ritual because she does not vaccinate and because she cures children with autism. Dr. Labins stated that the Respondent believes that her husband was fulfilling the government's role in performing backside penetration on their child and that this penetration sends a surge of energy to the child's brain resulting in the compartmentalization of the brain. Dr. Labins also stated that the Respondent believes that the government is interested in pursuing all persons who are opposed to vaccinating children, which is part of a global government plot in collusion with the drug industry. Finally, Dr. Labins testified that the Respondent was unable to consider any other basis for what she alleged happened to her child. . . .

A delusional disorder occurs when someone has a fixed false belief without any other apparent symptoms that would otherwise be present in other illnesses, and, characteristically, the person's behavior does not appear odd or bizarre in any way other than in those behaviors that are derivative of the delusion. . . .

The Respondent has both delusions of persecution and delusions of grandiosity, I.e., the Respondent believes that she is being persecuted because she has a special ability to heal autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, cancer and other autoimmune disorders. . . .

The Respondent refers to herself as "Ghandi with breasts" as well as having been stripped to the bone and being able to save the world. The Respondent has a sense of knowing something that other people do not know. There is a messianic theme to her delusional system. . . . The Respondent has even compared herself to Joan of Arc. . . .

The Respondent believes that the Nassau County Department of Social Services, the Office of Professional Medical Conduct ["OPMC"], the judiciary, the pharmaceutical industry, and the legislature, are all colluding to persecute her as a result of her practice of alternative medicine. [1]

The BPMC's Hearing Committee concluded:

The Respondent's delusions interfere with her practice of medicine because inherent to her delusions is a rigidity of thinking which involves the need to integrate all information into her preformed belief system. This need is intrinsically incompatible with the safe and effective practice of medicine because medicine involves being able to continuously reevaluate an initial diagnosis and consider differential diagnoses. The process of diagnosis requires the suspension of conclusions pending the accumulation of data. The Respondent believes that she already knows the answers before she begins to gather data. The Respondent believes that she is right, that she has special knowledge, and that her purpose on earth is to save others. . . .

Derivative of the Respondent's sense that she has special knowledge and that she is right is the notion that rules do not apply to her. This notion, at times, impairs her ability to maintain appropriate therapeutic boundaries in the physician-patient relationship. . . .

Finally, the Respondent has a continuous persistent impairment, which, in itself, is sufficient to render her unsafe to practice medicine.

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley.html

sequoia

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:18 pm

"In some respects, vaccines are a victim of their own success: the terrible diseases they were invented to combat have been so effectively defeated that people have forgotten just how bad they were, and so they no longer fear the consequences of not vaccinating. But few of those diseases have been completely wiped out. Instead, they linger on the margins… and when a significant number of people in a community refuse vaccination, they can come back with a vengeance."

THAT. How do people not realize this?

Think1st

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:18 pm

black sheep wrote:

Why should we trust the CDC more than our own elected congressmen do ?

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-.....m.pdf

Cholera is a major problem in 3rd world countries , & a non-issue in developed countries.what does that tell you?

Not vax, but sanitation & better living conditions got rid of it

Or come out with a vax now & claim retroactive credit for disappearance LOL

To sequoia

I understand what you are trying to say, but if you are right, When was there an epidemic of Hep B amongst newborn babies that that they had to give every innocent newborn 3 Hep B shots,it is primarily an STD. Do you know any 1 day old drug addicts or harlots ? LOL

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amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:20 pm

As someone who works in vaccine development, I am beginning to get very insulted over this money thing.

So, let's clear this up once and for all. I do not love money. My co-workers do not love money. I do not poison people in order to get rich. My co-workers do not poison people to get rich. Further, I am not rich. and neither are they. Finally, I do not make a lot of money and neither do they.

Now, please stop insulting me.

If you want to debate vaccines, fine, do so. But, do so without insulting people. You want to believe they do not work. Then, do so. But, stop accusing me and my co-workers of giving people autism, seizures and mortality in children for the sake of money. I am not that pathetic.

Done vent!

amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:26 pm

Think1st wrote:

Why should we trust the CDC more than our own elected congressmen do ?

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-.....m.pdf

Cholera is a major problem in 3rd world countries ,& a non-issue in developed countries.what does that tell you?

Not vax, but sanitation & better living conditions got rid of it

Or come out with a vax now & claim retroactive credit for disappearance LOL

Cholera is a specific disease caused by Vibreo spp. A Vibreo vulnificus outbreak occurred in the USA after Katrina with mortality. A few deaths in FL are related to it each year. And, there are others in states bordering ocean. It is not a non-issue. It is extremely deadly and fast moving. Death occurs within a few days of contraction. Yes, even in the USA.

amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:28 pm

I'm fine with her judging me for giving my son autism. After all, I am judging her for giving my baby pertussis.

(Amother whose baby caught pertussis from the Salon mothers that Thinks1st wants us to model.)

ally

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:32 pm

amother wrote:

What do you mean?
Everyone knows people only go into research and academia for the money!

amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:34 pm

ally wrote:

What do you mean?
Everyone knows people only go into research and academia for the money!

lol! You really made me laugh on this one. (And relax after those insults.) Thank you!

amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 3:38 pm

Think1st wrote:

Why should we trust the CDC more than our own elected congressmen do ?

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-.....m.pdf

Cholera is a major problem in 3rd world countries ,& a non-issue in developed countries.what does that tell you?

Not vax, but sanitation & better living conditions got rid of it

Or come out with a vax now & claim retroactive credit for disappearance LOL

To sequoia

I understand what you are trying to say, but if you are right, When was there an epidemic of Hep B amongst newborn babies that that they had to give every innocent newborn 3 Hep B shots,it is primarily &STD. Do you know any 1 day old drug addicts or harlots ? LOL

Do you really believe that repeating your lies makes them true? You made that thoroughly obnoxious comment before, and you were provided with demonstrable facts to the contrary.

An estimated 1.25 million people are chronically infected with the hepatitis B virus in the United States alone, resulting in an estimated 2,000-4,000 deaths each year. Surprisingly, 30%-40% of these chronic infections were acquired during childhood.

But, hey, you put a little smiley face next to it, and none of those infections occur, and none of those people die.

But please, again, share with us how the HepB vaccine, which does not include thimerosal, is metabolized as mercury.

You can't. Because your theories are nothing more than a bunch of lies. So instead you'll just keep telling the same lies over and over again.

Think1st

Tue, May 13 2014, 4:04 pm

amother wrote:

http://articles.mercola.com/si......aspx

Congressman Dan burton Had a grandchiled thatstopped breathing after a Hep B shot

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/new_page_9.htm

I enjoy your attacks, bring em on, I try to show source of my claim but we must take your word

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chaiz

Tue, May 13 2014, 4:06 pm

ally wrote:

What do you mean?
Everyone knows people only go into research and academia for the money!

Right. Because homeopaths and naturopaths and all the natural practitioners are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts and not charging a penny for their work. Especially those who are doing the great service of detoxing vaccinated children.

amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 4:16 pm

Think1st wrote:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/07/60-things-that-can-go-terribly-wrong-with-hepatitis-b-vaccination.aspx

Congressman Dan burton Had a grandchiled thatstopped breathing after a Hep B shot

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/new_page_9.htm

I enjoy your attacks, bring em on, I try to show source of my claim but we must take your word

Citing a quack who cites no evidence doesn't constitute presenting evidence.

Using your own criteria, we should all ignore Mercola, because he's in the business of selling his own products through his website. He wants to make money. Must make him unreliable.

Quote:

In 2005, the FDA ordered Mercola and his Optimal Wellness Center to stop making illegal claims for products sold through his Web site [13]. The claims to which the FDA objected involved three products:

Living Fuel Rx, claimed to offer an "exceptional countermeasure" against cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, autoimmune diseases, etc.
Tropical Traditions Virgin Coconut Oil, claimed to reduce the risk of heart disease and has beneficial effects against Crohn's disease, irritable bowel syndrome, and many infectious agents
Chlorella, claimed to fight cancer and normalize blood pressure.
In 2006, the FDA sent Mercola and his center a second warning that was based on product labels collected during an inspection at his facility and on claims made on the Optimum Wellness Center Web site [14]. This time the claims to which the FDA objected involve four products:

Vibrant Health Research Chlorella XP, claimed to "help to virtually eliminate your risk of developing cancer in the future."
Fresh Shores Extra Virgin Coconut Oil, claimed to reduce the risk of heart disease, cancer, and degenerative diseases.
Momentum Health Products Vitamin K2, possibly useful in treating certain kinds of cancer and Alzheimer's disease.
Momentum Health Products Cardio Essentials Nattokinase NSK-SD, claimed to be "a much safer and effective option than aspirin and other pharmaceutical agents to treating heart disease."
The warning letters explained that the use of such claims in the marketing of these products violates the Federal Food Drug and Cosmetic Act, which bans unapproved claims for products that are intended for curing, mitigating, treating, or preventing of diseases. (Intended use can be established through product labels, catalogs, brochures, tapes, Web sites, or other circumstances surrounding the distribution of the product.)

In 2011, the FDA ordered Mercola to stop making claims for thermography that go beyond what the equipment he uses (Medtherm2000 infrared camera) was cleared for. The warning letter said that statements on Mercola's site improperly imply that the Meditherm camera can be used alone to diagnose or screen for various diseases or conditions associated with the breast, they also represent that the sensitivity of the Meditherm Med2000 Telethermographic camera is greater than that of machines used in mammography. The statements to which the FDA objected included:

"Revolutionary and Safe Diagnostic Tool Detects Hidden Inflammation: Thermography"
"The Newest Safe Cancer Screening Tool"
"[b]ecause measuring inflammation through thermal imaging is a proactive, preventative method you can use for detecting disease, which significantly improves your chances for longevity and good health."
Additionally, thermograms provide: "Reliable and accurate information for diagnosis, treatment, and prognosis…"
"Yes, it's true. Thermograms provide you with early diagnosis and treatment assistance in such problems as cancer, inflammatory processes, neurological and vascular dysfunction, and musculoskeletal injury."
Thermography can benefit patients by detecting conditions including: Arthritis: "[d]ifferentiate between osteoarthritis and more severe forms like rheumatoid." Immune Dysfunction, Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue, "Digestive Disorders: Irritable bowel syndrome, diverticulitis, and Crohn's disease…" and "Other Conditions: including bursitis, herniated discs, ligament or muscle tear, lupus, nerve problems, whiplash, stroke screening, cancer and many, many others." [15]
In 2011, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mercola had not complied with the FDA's order and intended to "figh

t the FDA . . . if they decide to take it further." [16][/quote]

Here's one of his greatest hits -- HIV doesn't cause AIDS. But you know what? He can cure it. And just about everything else that's wrong with you. Just buy a few of his products.

amother

Tue, May 13 2014, 4:21 pm

"Vaccinations are undoubtedly one of the greater inventions of the modern era and have saved countless lives. This blessing sometimes leads to complacency, as some individuals become immune to the phenomenon of mass outbreaks and plagues. Others fear immunizing their families because of the minimal risks associated with vaccines. In effect if not in intent, they rely upon the so-called “herd immunity” that occurs when most other people get vaccinated, thereby reducing the chance of contagion.

Public health officials have strongly countered that vaccines present minimal risks (especially relative to other health-care procedures) and that many of the sensationalistic claims linking vaccines to autism and other terrible side effects have been scientifically refuted. Furthermore, we must reserve the protections of herd immunity for those who cannot get vaccinated because of weaker immune systems. Nonetheless, certain people around the world continue to avoid vaccinations, including limited elements of ultra-Orthodox communities in America who have recently experienced tragic outbreaks of mumps and measles.

As Rabbi Asher Bush has noted, Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv argued that given the widespread contemporary medical consensus, parents are obligated to vaccinate their children, and schools or camps may exclude those who fail to take those preventive measures. Many Jewish decisors including Rabbi Yehoshua Neuwirth argued that in the absence of an outbreak or national legal mandate, schools should strongly encourage but cannot force the vaccination of children, even as their parents remain negligent, since Jewish law decidedly supports vaccination. This follows the health policies of many countries, which allow conscientious objectors to avoid vaccinations.

Be that as it may, all scholars agree that the effort to prevent the return of polio is a national mission. We must support the call of Israel’s chief rabbis who declared that Jewish law mandates all children to be vaccinated in accordance with Health Ministry regulations. ■
(Rabbi Shlomo Brody)

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