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 Tue, May 07 2024, 11:31 am
| amother Yarrow wrote: | It was the same. Not as many were diagnosed and the classifications were different. Everyone had that awkward cousin or uncle that you knew was different but never was officially diagnosed.  |
No, Yarrow, autism rate not the same.
Let's use the original definition of autism which was children who were non verbal.
In 1975 the non verbal autism rate was one in 5,000 see source below:
https://www.washingtonpost.com.....tism/
Today non verbal autism is more than 1 in 500.
That is TEN TIMES higher rate of non verbal autism,
with the biggest increase in the 1990s,
Right after congress gave pharmaceutical industry immunity from vaccine injury
and the CDC tripled the number of vaccines.
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DarkYellow
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Tue, May 07 2024, 11:34 am
| #BestBubby wrote: | No, Yarrow, autism rate not the same.
Let's use the original definition of autism which was children who were non verbal.
In the 1970s non verbal autism was 1 in 5,000
Today non verbal autism is more than 1 in 500.
That is TEN TIMES higher rate of non verbal autism,
with the biggest increase in the 1990s,
Right after congress gave pharmaceutical industry immunity from vaccine injury
and the CDC tripled the number of vaccines. |
Countries with highest rates of autism have minimal to no vaccination.
And specialists in autism can often see it from under a month old.
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Tomato
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Tue, May 07 2024, 11:39 am
| #BestBubby wrote: | No, Yarrow, autism rate not the same.
Let's use the original definition of autism which was children who were non verbal.
In the 1970s non verbal autism was 1 in 5,000
Today non verbal autism is more than 1 in 500.
That is TEN TIMES higher rate of non verbal autism,
with the biggest increase in the 1990s,
Right after congress gave pharmaceutical industry immunity from vaccine injury
and the CDC tripled the number of vaccines. |
Yes but other things could be factors as well. Radiation from microwaves and mobile phones for example. Or more processed foods, which plays a big part in behavioural issues. Or more cars on the road which pollute the air.
IF all things are equal then MAYBE you have a case. But all things are not equal.
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Tue, May 07 2024, 11:46 am
| amother DarkYellow wrote: | Countries with highest rates of autism have minimal to no vaccination.
And specialists in autism can often see it from under a month old. |
False!
Countries with the highest autism rates have very high vaccination rates.
Unlike you, I have a source for the 10 countries with high autism rates, all highly vaccinated:
https://www.goldenstepsaba.com.....utism
And babies are vaccinated before birth, on day of birth and two weeks after birth not surprising babies can be diagnosed with autism at a month. Already multiple vaxxed when they are at highest risk.
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:00 pm
| amother Tomato wrote: | Yes but other things could be factors as well. Radiation from microwaves and mobile phones for example. Or more processed foods, which plays a big part in behavioural issues. Or more cars on the road which pollute the air.
IF all things are equal then MAYBE you have a case. But all things are not equal. |
Do microwaves and cell phones have inserts listing a correlation with autism and many other diseases?
NO!
Is there a microwave court or cell phone court that paid over $4 Billion to microwave or cellphone injured children?
NO!
Are there thousands of parents claiming that after exposure to microwave or cellphones their child got very sick and regressed into autism?
NO!
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Tomato
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:04 pm
| #BestBubby wrote: | Do microwaves and cell phones have inserts listing a correlation with autism and many other diseases?
NO!
Is there a microwave court or cell phone court that paid over $4 Billion to microwave or cellphone injured children?
NO!
Are there thousands of parents claiming that after exposure to microwave or cellphones their child got very sick and regressed into autism?
NO! |
I don't know, but I do know that in places where there are mobile phone towers (not sure what they're called), there's been a surge in certain cancers.
You can say we can't know for sure, in the same way as 'vaccines cause autism'.
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DarkYellow
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:04 pm
| #BestBubby wrote: | False!
Countries with the highest autism rates have very high vaccination rates.
Unlike you, I have a source for the 10 countries with high autism rates, all highly vaccinated:
https://www.goldenstepsaba.com.....utism
And babies are vaccinated before birth, on day of birth and two weeks after birth not surprising babies can be diagnosed with autism at a month. Already multiple vaxxed when they are at highest risk. |
Are these numbers looking at children under or over the age of 10?
Bc so many receive a reverse diagnosis later on- a lot of debate about whether this was true autism.
If you look at the older (above 10) diagnosed population, a significant portion were never vaccinated.
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Tomato
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:05 pm
| #BestBubby wrote: | Do microwaves and cell phones have inserts listing a correlation with autism and many other diseases?
NO!
Is there a microwave court or cell phone court that paid over $4 Billion to microwave or cellphone injured children?
NO!
Are there thousands of parents claiming that after exposure to microwave or cellphones their child got very sick and regressed into autism?
NO! |
Wait a minute, are you saying that radiation from cell-phones is not dangerous??
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Stoneblue
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:10 pm
| amother Tomato wrote: | | Wait a minute, are you saying that radiation from cell-phones is not dangerous?? |
Radiation causes cancer and there are warnings about it that come with the cell phone and the microwave.
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Peach
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:20 pm
| amother Red wrote: | | What religion is that? Certainly not Jadaism |
Yes judaism. Torah commands us to be VERY careful with our body.
Very careful means staying away from injecting horrible stuff that is pushed by people who do not mean our benefit.
Our torah commands us to refrain from anything unhealthy and so a religious exemption means that I stay away from injecting harmful stuff into my childs body because it goes against the commandments of being VERY careful with my and my childs health.
If you feel that vaccines are healthy then your commandment is to inject as much as you can but that does not mean that religious exemption is not true.
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:21 pm
| amother Tomato wrote: | | Wait a minute, are you saying that radiation from cell-phones is not dangerous?? |
No! Where did I say that???
There is evidence that vaccines are main cause of autism, the inserts, vaccine court paying $4 billion for vaccine injuries, etc.
That doesnt mean there arent many dangerous things in the world.
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:26 pm
| amother Stoneblue wrote: | | Radiation causes cancer and there are warnings about it that come with the cell phone and the microwave. |
Correct.
But cell phone inserts dont warn about correlation between radiation and autism like
Vaccine inserts do warn about correlation between vaccines and autism and many other diseases.
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Tomato
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:28 pm
| #BestBubby wrote: | No! Where did I say that???
There is evidence that vaccines are main cause of autism, the inserts, vaccine court paying $4 billion for vaccine injuries, etc.
That doesnt mean there arent many dangerous things in the world. |
No you didn't say it, but you implied that because the cell-companies haven't had lawsuits and/or shelled out millions of $$s, it means they aren't to blame.
But you don't really know that, none of us do.
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:30 pm
| amother DarkYellow wrote: | Are these numbers looking at children under or over the age of 10?
Bc so many receive a reverse diagnosis later on- a lot of debate about whether this was true autism.
If you look at the older (above 10) diagnosed population, a significant portion were never vaccinated. |
What is your source for autism rate in unvaccinated children?
I give sources but the vaccine defenders don't give sources.
And I have debunked all their claims with sources.
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Tomato
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:31 pm
| #BestBubby wrote: | Correct.
But cell phone inserts dont warn about correlation between radiation and autism like
Vaccine inserts do warn about correlation between vaccines and autism and many other diseases. |
Yes, we know that autism has gone up since vaccines did. But we don't know whether there other factors at play, like cell-phones, the use of which has exploded.
Unless you had a control group of vaccinated kids as well as unvaccinated kids, one of which is exposed to cell-phones and microwaves (I.e. radiation) and one which hasn't.
Otherwise you can't prove anything.
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:33 pm
| amother Tomato wrote: | No you didn't say it, but you implied that because the cell-companies haven't had lawsuits and/or shelled out millions of $$s, it means they aren't to blame.
But you don't really know that, none of us do. |
Logic tells us that the product that lists autism on their inserts
The product that has a special court that paid out Billions to injured children including autism
The product that thousands if parents claim caused their child's autism
IS the main cause of autism.
But some people will twist themselves into pretzels to deny the obvious
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Lightyellow
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:35 pm
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It's not just autism. There are so many risks involved. If you don't know of them , I bench you you should never know. Someone very close to me started getting seizures after his dtap vaccine. OP , new york is tough. But there are ways around it as I know alot of people that do not vaccinate. You need to find anti vaaxers in real life not on imamother.
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Tomato
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Tue, May 07 2024, 12:40 pm
| amother Lightyellow wrote: | | It's not just autism. There are so many risks involved. If you don't know of them , I bench you you should never know. Someone very close to me started getting seizures after his dtap vaccine. OP , new york is tough. But there are ways around it as I know alot of people that do not vaccinate. You need to find anti vaaxers in real life not on imamother. |
I know someone who is deaf after having Rubella, and another who's mother had Rubella during pregnancy. He was born deaf, and the other lost all her hearing at 6 weeks
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