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Should visiting day be abolished?

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Total Votes : 220

happy chick ↓

Sat, Jul 13 2024, 11:52 pm

Yay or nay?

amother

Bluebonnet ↓

Sat, Jul 13 2024, 11:53 pm

Some camps abolished it already.

↑ happy chick ↓

Sat, Jul 13 2024, 11:56 pm

amother Bluebonnet wrote:

Some camps abolished it already.

A lot of camps didnt have visiting day summer of 2020 cuz of covid, I was hoping it would become a trend

amother

Begonia ↓

Sat, Jul 13 2024, 11:59 pm

I love Visiting day! Not the traffic part.
But I love getting to see firsthand where my kid is spending her time in camp, meeting her counselors and friends, giving her a hug and special attention after not seeing her for a couple of weeks, etc!!

amother

↑ Bluebonnet

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 12:00 am

happy chick wrote:

A lot of camps didnt have visiting day summer of 2020 cuz of covid, I was hoping it would become a trend

Some chassidish camps don't have visiting day this year.
I was never a fan. You're sending you're child away to a place you hopefully trust can keep them safe. No need to check in 2 weeks later to make sure they're still alive. If you weren't told otherwise, you can safely assume they're ok and are old enough and mature enough to go 4 weeks without seeing you.

amother

Plum

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 12:00 am

Why do you believe it should be done away with?

amother

Snapdragon ↓

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 12:17 am

My son’s camp doesn’t have official visiting day. Kids can get visitors anytime, and most people come Fridays or Sundays. There’s a regular program and not like by us where we sat around waiting for visitors which was hurtful to those who didn’t get. Still I decided I wanted to go this Sunday though many people I know went on Friday. I also visited him last week Friday. Bh I think it’s a great system. And know he’s not old enough and mature enough to go four weeks (9weeks actually) without seeing me, what even.

amother

Cyan

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 12:22 am

Naaleh abolished it a long time ago
I wrote a persuasion essay on this topic in 8th grade lol
(I got an A Wink

)

amother

Chestnut

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 12:40 am

They should allow visitors in some form.

Trust is never unconditional. "Trust but verify" is a real thing. Parents being able to visit reduces the chances of abuse and other issues.

Even if children are independent enough to go 4-8 weeks without seeing their parents and siblings, people who love each other like to spend time together. Children miss their parents, parents miss their children, siblings miss their siblings.

However, there should not be one Visiting Day. Having the visits all at once leads to extreme traffic, and it places too much of an expectation that all kids should have visitors, when some can't.

rising hero

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 12:53 am

Visiting day made much more sense years ago when camp started at a much younger age.

amother

Phlox

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 1:02 am

rising hero wrote:

Visiting day made much more sense years ago when camp started at a much younger age.

And when camp was actually 4 weeks long

asmileaday ↓

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 1:13 am

I used to not mind visiting day but it's getting tiring, especially with little babies.
I think they should allow visits in some form at the parents own pace. I don't know if it's practical but that's my opinion.

amother

Natural

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 1:17 am

Anyone know if BRC ,Tcs has unofficial visiting day?

Do most parents end up coming even though they dodnt have visiting day? Will.my daughter be the only one without family tomorrow?

Peersupport ↓

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 1:21 am

As a child I would have said to abolish it.
It was a waste of a day and hard on my parents.

As a parent I would want to be able to pop in to check it out.
I don't think a specific day is necessary.

amother

Linen

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 1:41 am

Visiting day was my least favorite. My parents weren't able to come and it was the most boring, depressing day.

It is hard on parents who go and hard on kids whose parent can't.

amother

Bellflower ↓

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 1:44 am

Peersupport wrote:

As a child I would have said to abolish it.
It was a waste of a day and hard on my parents.

As a parent I would want to be able to pop in to check it out.
I don't think a specific day is necessary.

Just curious what parents expect to check out. These are older kids (10+). They can communicate if their basic needs are not met. (If ch"v there is any abuse, you can bet that it would be well hidden when you visit.)

There is also staff and other families on camp grounds. If something is not right, will they all keep quiet and keep coming back year after year?

The established visiting day is just a mess and a huge strain on everyone. Traffic is horrendous, the kids are bored most of the day hanging around waiting for parents to come or to leave grounds. And the camps put on a show to make sure everything looks great.

It's barely 2 weeks since camp started. The kids will be back home before we know it. It's really not necessary for those in camp for 4 weeks. For those in camp for the full summer, that's a different story. Those camps should just have one optional visiting day halfway thru for those kids staying full summer.

↑ Peersupport

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 2:01 am

amother Bellflower wrote:

I don't believe an established day is necessary, but transparency is very important.
None of the things you mentioned are guarantees of what my preferences are as a parent.

I'd prefer to be able to pop in at a random time to make sure things are okay even when things aren't prepped for the parents.

The staff in camp that we had as children are not such great examples for what I would want for my kids.

I once babysat our camp directors kids on a trip day.
She told me about 3 children.
At the supper table 5 kids showed up.
The fire alarm went off at some point after.
At night when I went to check in on them there were 7 kids in the room.

I don't just trust authority.
It's always good to do your own research and make surprise visits.

shabbatiscoming ↓

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 2:03 am

amother Phlox wrote:

And when camp was actually 4 weeks long

There are sleep away camps that go 4 or 8 weeks.

↑ shabbatiscoming ↓

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 2:05 am

Peersupport wrote:

As a child I would have said to abolish it.
It was a waste of a day and hard on my parents.

As a parent I would want to be able to pop in to check it out.
I don't think a specific day is necessary.

Not all sleep away camps are pop inable. Some are HOURS away.

amother

↑ Bellflower ↓

Sun, Jul 14 2024, 2:07 am

Peersupport wrote:

This is a need that visiting day doesn't resolve. Whether we do or don't have visiting day, you would still want to pop in without notice.

So what's the benefit of visiting day in itself. Sounds like the hassles outweigh the benefits.

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