Anyone else following the titan submersible story?

↑ watergirl ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:15 am

Trademark wrote:

I always think of these things too!

They do have a small toilet.

I think it was meant to be for a few days, so they have some food.

It was meant to be 8 hours.

↑ octopus ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:16 am

In terms of food they were only allowed to bring one sandwich and a drink. It was only supposed to be for 8 hours. They weren't allowed to pack more food.

↑ Busybee5 ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:20 am

octopus wrote:

In terms of food they were only allowed to bring one sandwich and a drink. It was only supposed to be for 8 hours. They weren't allowed to pack more food.

Oh gosh 😢 us mums know that you always travel what extra food just in case! I guess they were that tight for space?

↑ Elfrida ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:23 am

In the news conference, he said that there were some emergency rations on board, but it wasn't clear how much.

Capt Frederick says: "They do have limited rations aboard but I can't tell you exactly how much."

There is a small toilet, with a curtain in front of it. When it was in use, the pilot would turn up the volume on the music! I imagine the storage facility for the, um, waste products has limited capacity, so I don't know how that's working now, though I'm sure they're rationing whatever food and water is available very carefully.

Cheiny ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:47 am

Busybee5 wrote:

Yes so scary for them
If they're alive now, which they seem to be because of the banging.

Experts say the banging may not even be coming from the submarine.

Also, those inside were made very well aware about the absolute and very real danger and risks of it, and the possible deadly consequences of something going wrong. They basically took their lives in their own hands and now it seems that unfortunately they made a bad choice. I guess human nature is no one believes the worst case scenario will happen to them….

The supposed cost for each person to do this was approximately $250,000. Mind boggling.

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↑ Cheiny ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:49 am

crust wrote:

I wonder if a company like this ever has an inspection?

I understand the families will take them to court now. But what about till tragedy strikes?

I am asking not about this particular advuture but in general, is it like no man's land and everyone can do what they want without the adventure craft/activity having proper law and code to keep it safe?

Apparently the families will not be able to sue because those who did it signed waivers and were very well warned and aware of the deadly risk involved.

↑ Cheiny ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:50 am

Trademark wrote:

They probably signed a document that they are aware of the risks and that it's not regulated etc.

I can't fathom what would compel a person to take such a risk.

Maybe having so much money to burn that you don’t know what to do with it any more?

↑ octopus ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:51 am

You think a waiver can stop people from suing? If they can prove negligence they can still sue.

↑ scruffy ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:52 am

Cheiny wrote:

Apparently the families will not be able to sue because those who did it signed waivers and were very well warned and aware of the deadly risk involved.

Not necessarily. Companies make these kind of waivers all the time (have you ever signed one to go snow tubing or on a ropes course) yet if you were actually injured you could sue and would probably get something. They usually put these kind of documents in place to deter people from suing.

↑ Trademark ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:52 am

octopus wrote:

You think a waiver can stop people from suing? If they can prove negligence they can still sue.

If they don't make it, how would suing help them?

These families are already wealthy and their loved ones gone...

↑ scruffy ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:53 am

Trademark wrote:

If they don't make it, how would suing help them?

These families are already wealthy and their loved ones gone...

A sense of justice? As a way to deal with grief?

Java ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:53 am

octopus wrote:

You think a waiver can stop people from suing? If they can prove negligence they can still sue.

Right they would have to prove gross negligence, willful misconduct etc

flowerpower ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 11:53 am

I saw a little clip of what the “submarine” looked like and how it was controlled. I wouldn’t go in it even if you paid me $250,000. What is wrong with those people for going into it?

Hope they get help very very soon

↑ Cheiny ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 12:02 pm

Trademark wrote:

If they don't make it, how would suing help them?

These families are already wealthy and their loved ones gone...

I’m sure they’ll attempt to sue anyway.

Wealth never stopped people from wanting more.

↑ Cheiny ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 12:02 pm

flowerpower wrote:

Agree.

Apparently one of them had been to see the Titanic 35 times…

↑ watergirl ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 12:07 pm

Trademark wrote:

If they don't make it, how would suing help them?

These families are already wealthy and their loved ones gone...

It would force them to close, to stop putting people in harms way, etc.

It would help people moving forward.

↑ NechaMom ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 12:08 pm

watergirl wrote:

It would force them to close, to stop putting people in harms way, etc.

It would help people moving forward.

I believe that after this story people will think much longer and harder before signing up for such a trip. Unless if they’re suicidal in the first place.

↑ Busybee5 ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 12:09 pm

Cheiny wrote:

Apparently the families will not be able to sue because those who did it signed waivers and were very well warned and aware of the deadly risk involved.

Doesn't seem like they need the money anyway.

↑ Busybee5 ↓

Wed, Jun 21 2023, 12:10 pm

NechaMom wrote:

I believe that after this story people will think much longer and harder before signing up for such a trip. Unless if they’re suicidal in the first place.

I don't think anyone who's as suicidal would pay this amount for either an experience of a lifetime, or their death. Although bh I wouldn't know.