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Have you looked into a special school for dyslexia?
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amother
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Wed, Oct 30 2024, 11:29 pm
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Where do you live? Is your child dyslexic? I have an 11-year-old dyslexic child who just moved to school for kids with language based learning disabilities and it’s amazing. We tried all different things.for us the Wilson’s Program did help But very slow we also have prison glasses. I heard about the thing with the colors Someone gave me like clear colored file folder type things, and you put it over the page you could still read through, but you have that color effect. You could try that first. A lot of children who struggle with dyslexia are very smart and are very good at learning with just paying attention but they’re gonna struggle in school because that’s not the moad School use
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amother
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Wed, Oct 30 2024, 11:35 pm
Have you tried having him evaluated by Mrs. Mertzbach (if you're in monsey) or by the guttman sisters (if you're in bklyn)?
I'd try that.
Also there is another system for teaching reading to children with dyslexia. There is someone in bp who specializes in it. She teaches people the method, program. I'll try to find the info.
I do not know anything about the colored glasses.
One of my children had prism glasses we did not see any difference.
Another of my children has slight dyslexia, we see a huge difference with Mrs. Mertzbachs exersized. Although it's pricy over time....
I am dyslexic. I learned to read at around 10 years old with lots of resource room visits, special glasses, (I honestly have no clue what those were. It's been 20+ years), vision therapy and some other eye/movement coordination and picture based reading kinda program (have no clue what that was either but I do remember the exersizes. Lol) after years of that, my brain slowly started putting things together.
I memorized so many things. But when it came to actual text taking It was bad news. Math on the other hand. Numbers were Mt THANG.
At this point I'm in my 30. And I've learned so much resilience from my struggles. I still have trouble with word recall and it gets really bad when I'm tired, sick or pregnant. To the point I just will shut my mouth becuase it's that frustration. But most of the time we all laugh about it.
I still have a hard time expressing my thoughts clearly without adding a million words to get the point across (I'm sure there is a single word or phrase that can describe my last 3 sentences but alas, I don't have the words for it now. Maybe tomorrow I will... lol)
I'm happy. I'm content. I'm fully functional. I'm a sahm now by choice. I actually had a very well paying job for a few years before I became a mom. It really worked on my strengths and I struggled through a bit for the minimal data entry the job required.
I know you're struggling now, but know that one day. He'll be happy, healthy and well adjusted.
Lots of positive reinforcements. Let his strengths outshine his weaknesses. And make sure he knows you think he's the brightest boy alive!
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 8:05 am
The Irlene lenses are good from experience with a family member. Before buying lenses you can go on Amazon there are different colored plastics that are placed over the book. These can help very much. The lenses are expensive maybe buy the plastics first to see if it would help.
Also check eye and ear coordination, maybe you can try noise cancelling headphones together with the plastics and lenses.
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ora_43
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 8:10 am
1. Is he dyslexic?
(1b. if 'no', are you sure? how much do you trust the diagnosis? sometimes what doesn't look like dyslexia to one doctor at age 7 is very clearly dyslexia at age 11.)
2. 'Can't read' in what sense? Does he not recognize letters? Recognize letters, but can't sound out words? Can read simple words, but not complex ones? etc
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ora_43
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 8:14 am
Some people say colored glasses have helped them, so I guess it's worth a shot.
I think though you also need to realize that there's only so much you can do. With dyslexia reading takes a lot of time and effort, and it's only ever going to get so good. He might never be able to read at grade level and it won't be because you didn't look hard enough for a solution.
Go ahead and try glasses but also reassure him that while reading and writing are super helpful they're not absolutely necessary. There are other ways to learn and communicate, especially these days with modern technology. He can still do well in school and have a great career/future in learning.
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 8:26 am
I vouch for Mrs Mertzbach’s program as well. She strengthens the root weaknesses in the brain and opens it up as well as many different modalities to develop the brain so it can absorb info. That’s why OT therapy didn’t work. OT didn’t help my son either long term and he regressed as well.
Regarding colored glasses, there’s Dr zelensky in Chicago that specializes in brain development and she does a combination of colored plus others if your child is a candidate for the colored lenses.
Many people have also been helped for dyslexic by Dr Alexander Kobrin in London. They have different approaches and no it’s not the same as the local doctors I’ve gone to for prism. We’ve been around the block and when we saw what we tried local for prism didn’t do much we switched. One child needed zelensky, while my other one needed Alexander kobrin for different issues
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 8:56 am
I’m actually gonna say an interesting observation I had with my own child when we were in a mainstream school she was getting pulled out a lot small group classes, and therapy. She had prism glasses, but refused to wear them and said they don’t do anything. When she started in the special school program this year I asked the teachers to tell her to use the glasses, and when she was in an environment that was less stressed and more her level she actually was able to see the difference of the glasses helping her.
This is after refusing to wear them for six years I think with all the help you can give if they are mostly in a program that to overwhelming for them they will just be overwhelmed
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 11:49 am
| amother Papaya wrote: | Have you tried having him evaluated by Mrs. Mertzbach (if you're in monsey) or by the guttman sisters (if you're in bklyn)?
I'd try that.
Also there is another system for teaching reading to children with dyslexia. There is someone in bp who specializes in it. She teaches people the method, program. I'll try to find the info.
I do not know anything about the colored glasses.
One of my children had prism glasses we did not see any difference.
Another of my children has slight dyslexia, we see a huge difference with Mrs. Mertzbachs exersized. Although it's pricy over time....
I am dyslexic. I learned to read at around 10 years old with lots of resource room visits, special glasses, (I honestly have no clue what those were. It's been 20+ years), vision therapy and some other eye/movement coordination and picture based reading kinda program (have no clue what that was either but I do remember the exersizes. Lol) after years of that, my brain slowly started putting things together.
I memorized so many things. But when it came to actual text taking It was bad news. Math on the other hand. Numbers were Mt THANG.
At this point I'm in my 30. And I've learned so much resilience from my struggles. I still have trouble with word recall and it gets really bad when I'm tired, sick or pregnant. To the point I just will shut my mouth becuase it's that frustration. But most of the time we all laugh about it.
I still have a hard time expressing my thoughts clearly without adding a million words to get the point across (I'm sure there is a single word or phrase that can describe my last 3 sentences but alas, I don't have the words for it now. Maybe tomorrow I will... lol)
I'm happy. I'm content. I'm fully functional. I'm a sahm now by choice. I actually had a very well paying job for a few years before I became a mom. It really worked on my strengths and I struggled through a bit for the minimal data entry the job required.
I know you're struggling now, but know that one day. He'll be happy, healthy and well adjusted.
Lots of positive reinforcements. Let his strengths outshine his weaknesses. And make sure he knows you think he's the brightest boy alive! |
This was so interesting for me to read.
I am I my 30s and also had trouble learning to read. I only learned to read after intense vision therapy. Hebrew is still difficult for me.
I have trouble expressing myself verbally and trouble with word recall and never knew it has anything to do with dyslexia. Thanks for the new information.
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 12:11 pm
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Thank you all so much for taking the time to reply. It's a bit hectic here so I don't have time to reply to each one but will definitely look into the options suggested. (Switching schools is not an option at the moment)
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 12:39 pm
| amother OP wrote: | | Thank you all so much for taking the time to reply. It's a bit hectic here so I don't have time to reply to each one but will definitely look into the options suggested. (Switching schools is not an option at the moment) |
I know you say it’s not an option to switch schools and I held tight to not switching and I only did it because my daughter was miserable and asked and she’s so much happier. She keeps asking why I didn’t do it sooner.
It was not easy. It was a very complicated decision to make but yet it’s the best thing I ever did and it’s only October. Her whole demeanor is like a boulder had been lifting off of her
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 4:05 pm
2 of my friend's kids could not read. Turns out they have celiac's and were severly malnurished. They switched to a gluten free diet and quickly learned how to read.
I know that plenty of kids with celiacs can read. However it is a possible side effect. It is a simple blood test to rule it out, so it is worth a try. (To be officially diagnosed there are more steps but a blood test can tell you if it is a possibility.)
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 4:08 pm
| ora_43 wrote: | 1. Is he dyslexic?
(1b. if 'no', are you sure? how much do you trust the diagnosis? sometimes what doesn't look like dyslexia to one doctor at age 7 is very clearly dyslexia at age 11.)
2. 'Can't read' in what sense? Does he not recognize letters? Recognize letters, but can't sound out words? Can read simple words, but not complex ones? etc |
The definition of dyslexia is difficulty reading, so yes, he is dyslexic.
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 4:10 pm
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OP have you tried Dr. Alexander in England? I know you said you tried prism glasses but not all prism glasses are created equal. I have a lot of experience with this (dyslexia runs in my family) and the only doctor they have seen success with is Dr. Alexander.
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 4:40 pm
| amother Raspberry wrote: | | The definition of dyslexia is difficulty reading, so yes, he is dyslexic. |
Not really. A child could b have visual or auditory processing issues and not be dyslexic
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 4:43 pm
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Does the school teach phonics to read or something like whole language learning? If it’s whole language you should know it has been thoroughly debunked and is not an effective way to learn to read. It holds children back from learning to read. Phonics is the way to go
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amother
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Thu, Oct 31 2024, 4:47 pm
The Lens Center: Located at 1318 55th St, Brooklyn, NY 11219
They may do irlen
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Serachba
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Fri, Nov 01 2024, 1:33 am
| amother OP wrote: | We have tried everything - every reading method out there. Seen a neurologist etc.
We tried prism glasses that did nothing.
Someone mentioned a doctor in monsey who prescribes colored glasses? Anyone know information?
(He sometimes makes a bit of progress with reading, reading veeeery slow but then regresses again. He is brilliant otherwise and is on par with his class and can take oral test and pass with flying colors. He also has some coordination issues and cannot ride a bike) |
OP, based on your description it sounds likely that deficits in temporal processing lie at the root of your son's problem. Temporal processing deficits that result in dyslexia are often based on some type of right-left hemispheric communication issue. This seems probable in your son's case, as you mention coordination issues & inability to ride a bike.
I have B"H successfully worked with students (3rd grade-H.S.) like this. I don't use 1 official method, although work is based on Dr. Shaywitz's research.
If you feel comfortable, pm me to discuss your son's history & learning profile, so you can decide if this is a good fit for him.
Hatzlacha!
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Goldie613
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Fri, Nov 01 2024, 5:19 am
I had a family member who after a serious accident had a lot of trouble reading. One of the things his vision therapist had him use was colored strips that could go over the words in a book as he read. I suspect what you are describing is similar, but strips would cost way less and you could experiment a bit (apparently there are different colors/styles and it may take some playing to see what works). Some are strips that go under the words, but yes, there are plenty that go over them.
Here are some examples -
https://www.amazon.com/Highlig.....ss_tl
https://www.amazon.com/Dyslexi.....ss_tl
https://www.amazon.com/Highlig.....ss_tl
(If I remember right, his vision person was part of the NYU concussion center)
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amother
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Fri, Nov 01 2024, 8:39 am
| amother OP wrote: | I have seen this but we don't know any eye doctor who prescribes these colored glasses, we heard someone in monsey does but we can't find the info
We have seen some small improvements, he started reading veeeery veeeery slow but then if we didn't keep up the practice he regressed again. |
Op, like others have said. You could try for a very good evaluation so you know what his problem is. The cored film from Amazon sounds close to what your looking for same idea. However he processed to this very slow pace is amazing. Of course it make sense he needs to practice or her regressed. I had a kid that had to start over after the summer because they fell back so much over the summer. He should be practicing reading every day of the week and he should be rewarded for that.
Our school has a training program after first grade kids are divided up for reading levels. Kids with severe reading problems read in the smallest group size of 2-3 in addition to one on one tutoring and homework 5 times a week. The practice really makes a difference.
If you have a son and in bp. I wonder if he wasn't really taught properly in the classroom to begin with? What age was he taught to read?
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