Quoting this from the other Shtisel thread since it answers some questions we had upthread.
לאיזה זרם בציבור החרדי-ירושלמי משתייכת המשפחה בסדרה?
"האמת שהיה לנו על זה דיונים מעמיקים. הם מדברים אידיש, אבל הם לא חסידים. יש להם אפילו התייחסות צינית קצת אל החסידות. הם צ'למרים. דוברי אידיש, אבל בעלי מסורת ליטאית".
Anyone know what צ'למרים are?
Also, this was a very positive view of shidduchim. We should post it on other threads:
למרות זאת, הוא רואה יופי בשיטת הדייטינג החרדית. "יש קסם נורא גדול באפשרות לשבת מול בן אדם ולראות לתוך נפשו. דווקא בצורה השמרנית, שאתה באמת מדבר עם האדם מולך, אתה יודע להפריד בין העיקר ובין הטפל ומגיע לעיקר. יש זה משהו מאד מדויק. מין בגרות באהבה".
Quoting this from the other Shtisel thread since it answers some questions we had upthread.
לאיזה זרם בציבור החרדי-ירושלמי משתייכת המשפחה בסדרה?
"האמת שהיה לנו על זה דיונים מעמיקים. הם מדברים אידיש, אבל הם לא חסידים. יש להם אפילו התייחסות צינית קצת אל החסידות. הם צ'למרים. דוברי אידיש, אבל בעלי מסורת ליטאית".
Anyone know what צ'למרים are?
Also, this was a very positive view of shidduchim. We should post it on other threads:
למרות זאת, הוא רואה יופי בשיטת הדייטינג החרדית. "יש קסם נורא גדול באפשרות לשבת מול בן אדם ולראות לתוך נפשו. דווקא בצורה השמרנית, שאתה באמת מדבר עם האדם מולך, אתה יודע להפריד בין העיקר ובין הטפל ומגיע לעיקר. יש זה משהו מאד מדויק. מין בגרות באהבה".
צ'למרים is (for lack of a better word)"slang" for yerushalmerim
So what do people think? Menucha is overstepping her bounds- packing up Devorah's clothes without asking Shulem first. That was totally wrong. BUT she also can't be expected to move in with her new husband and share closet space with his dead wife. Also Akiva shouldn't be trying to control the remodel. Shulem should have discussed it with him (hmm, seems like a lot of problems could be solved here by open discussion) but Akiva can't preserve his mother's kitchen as a museum. Life does have to march on.
One of the most humanizing moments for Shulem though, was the last episode of Season 1, when he buries his face in Devorah's clothes after her first yahrtzeit. It's the first time we see him express emotion about her death. I actually cried watching that scene.
So is Menucha too controlling? Or is Shulem just not quite ready to move on?
What about Ruchami? I think Gitty calling her marriage "childish nonsense" is going to backfire and make Ruchami more invested in making it work, even if it's a bad idea. Big misstep on Gitty's part. Lipa is actually more sympathetic here, although Gitty had a good line- she said we know that Ruchami's marriage isn't real because real husbands don't leave the woman they love. Ouch.
Is the little boy real? A ghost? A younger version of Akiva?
I was also wondering about the boy. It kind of reminds me of Elisheva going to Bnei Brak to feed and speak to her dead husbands - Did the whole story not happen? Did parts of it really happen?
Is Akiva going to fall in love with Hadassah next?
I think (hope?) that shulem and menucha dont end up together. The whole thing is just weird. And I think she is way overstepping her bounds.
And with ruhami, the story is just too strange. I mean, obviously nobody has told her the full meaning of being married. Its so strange. And beyond not realistic.
I thought it was funny when shulem's mother thought the jordanians were still somehow involved in the kotel and that is was a "sakunes nefesh" to go there
Thank you so much rainbow dash for posting and sharing this !
The story is surreal and that removal from reality shows how great the acting is, no matter how far fetched the story line gets, the acting stays strong and true.
Menucha is a fantastic character actress, and suddenly now Shulem seems so vulnerable. Akiva and the dream sequence of the little boy is a bit frothy for me, but lets the story perhaps develop with Hadassah.
As for Ruchami, poor girl, suddenly Lipa is the gentle parent, Gitty seems transfixed with her own past mistakes, unable to let her daughter go.
I don't like menucha. She's so controlling and insists on everything being her way!
I totally agree with Gitty about Ruchami's marriage. The whole thing doesn't make any sense. I think they should divorce and revisit the shidduch when they are of marriageable age.
Akiva, I just feel so sorry for him. He's so alone with so much going on inside. I wish he would find his true love and happiness already.
2) There are some insider jokes that make me, as a chareidi, totally crack up, but I wonder if the average non-chareidi person watching even gets them.
2 more examples -
Tzvi Aryeh's wife says we have to talk to Firer! She's referring to Rav Firer of Ezra L'Marpa who is a medical consultant. http://ezra-lemarpe.org/en/
Menucha talks about making the wedding in Zhvil. (My son's bris was there! )
As far as I know there arent any with english subtitles.
I posted links to season one with English subtitles in the other thread, but season 2 is still being run on Israeli tv. The US distributor will probably translate it sometime after the season is done here.
