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amother
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Post Yesterday at 8:09 pm
Following my 15year old is the same I am going nuts as well
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amother
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Post Yesterday at 11:04 pm
Fox wrote:
Woah! Before going down any other path, he needs a sleep study and a consultation with a neurologist who specializes in sleep issues.

Maybe it really is just a maturity/responsibility issue, but if it turns out to be more, you'll be glad you didn't destroy your son by treating a medical problem as a personal failing.

And, yes, it's possible for a sleep disorder to initially present on weekends or vacations . . . only to become more intrusive over time.


can you tell me more?? I have a son who is impossible to get out of bed. It doesn't help that he goes to sleep really late. It's better in the dorm, but when he's home he can sleep through shacharis. I used to get bent out of shape completely like really losing my mind. I decided to step back because I literally can not deal with it. He says he can not get up almost no matter what. And even when I wake him he doesn't get out of bed even though he is answering me, he just falls back asleep. Is that possible? What type of sleep disorder could this be and who would I go to for this?
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amother
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Post Yesterday at 11:36 pm
hodeez wrote:
17 is actually the ripe age for punishment lol


Really mama? This child is suffering already in a world where he is expected to conform and be out early daily abd hes not able to. What kind of punishment are you giving a 17 yr old that will make him stronger in the long run while strainthening your relationship and maintaining a positive relationship???
This man needs love. He needs a reason to get up.
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Post Today at 12:14 am
I’m stuck on the post where the son doesn’t get to sleep before 12:20 and is expected to be up at 7

That’s very little sleep for a teenagers careful how you tread. You only want positive feelings for Yiddishkeit. Come up with a compromise together.
Coming home at 11 seems very very very late. Just not wrapping my head around this
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Post Today at 2:18 pm
amother Jasmine wrote:
can you tell me more?? I have a son who is impossible to get out of bed. It doesn't help that he goes to sleep really late. It's better in the dorm, but when he's home he can sleep through shacharis. I used to get bent out of shape completely like really losing my mind. I decided to step back because I literally can not deal with it. He says he can not get up almost no matter what. And even when I wake him he doesn't get out of bed even though he is answering me, he just falls back asleep. Is that possible? What type of sleep disorder could this be and who would I go to for this?

Most people are aware of sleep apnea and narcolepsy, but there are a ton of different sleep disorders that range from mildly annoying to life-threatening.

It can also be an issue of circadian rhythm impacting someone's ability to rise and shine. Teenagers, in general, tend to become active later in the morning. A number of public high schools in the U.S. were able to significantly cut morning tardies and absences simply by moving the beginning of the school day back as little as 20-30 minutes. https://www.apa.org/topics/chi.....times

Adults tend to associate circadian rhythm issues with lack of discipline or poor sleep hygiene, but there's more to it than that. Teenagers often don't naturally feel sleepy until midnight or so. Of course, then, it's difficult to get up before 8 or 9 a.m.

My DH happens to have an extremely rare sleep disorder -- only 1,000 or so people in the country have been diagnosed. He began exhibiting signs of it as a child, and it took 30+ years to get a diagnosis and treatment plan. It's highly unlikely that your son has anything that severe, but even a mild problem can be crazy-making. And if it's just a matter of his circadian rhythm not matching what the world expects, there are neurologists and even "sleep coaches" who can help him adjust his natural sleep cycle.

It's funny: when talking about newborns, we're extremely interested in "sleep training" and normalizing their routines to match our own. We buy books and even hire people to tell us what to do. But once kids sleep through the night, we lose interest in their sleep. We wait until problems become genuinely disruptive before taking action.

Frankly, sleep is just as important or even more so than diet, exercise, regular check-ups, or any of the other things we do for our health. Inadequate sleep is a prime driver of metabolic disorders, including diabetes, obesity, fatty liver, etc. Many people conscientiously make sure their kids don't eat too much sugar but do nothing but nag them about sleep. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/a.....0477/

Sleep studies are now generally done at home, and they're usually covered by insurance. It's well worth the minimal effort to make sure nothing serious is going on and get some legitimate help for a sleepy kid, whatever his age.
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amother
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Post Today at 5:44 pm
What is monitored during a sleep study? Is it an EEG?
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amother
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Post Today at 6:38 pm
Whoever doesn’t wake up in the morning - we sprinkle water on them. Usually one time is enough. Next time they see me with a cup of water, they know better ))
It’s important though to do it in a fun, and not angry way.
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