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amother
  Mimosa  


 

Post Today at 10:47 am
cookiewriter wrote:
My good friends daughter same thing. Bnos four years. Suddenly, didn’t get in. Never heard of such a thing. She’s very very good girl


Did she write on the application she only wants first half? And they emailed she can come second instead? Or they just said you are rejected?
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  Bnei Berak 10  




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 10:49 am
amother Sunflower wrote:
Not Bnos
Not BRC
Not Tubby
Great girl. Loved by all. Talented and good middos.
9th grade.
I think that there are too many applicants. Also many applicants apply and then change plans. We are after all only in November. Camps should not open registration until around purim time.

We are in December already.
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amother
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Post Today at 10:50 am
Bnei Berak 10 wrote:
We are in December already.

But camps gave an answer 2 weeks ago. Mid november.
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amother
NeonPurple  


 

Post Today at 10:58 am
Bnos had very few slots this year. Everyone knew you needed to apply the second it opened. If you waited chances are you lost your slot the half you want. Especially if you usually go 2nd half and try to apply for first half. I think they said certain grades they didn't open to new campers at all. So if a 2nd half camper applied first day of priority for first half they could have gotten in instead. She should call the head staff and office and make sure she's first on list if anything opens.
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amother
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Post Today at 11:11 am
amother NeonPurple wrote:
Bnos had very few slots this year. Everyone knew you needed to apply the second it opened. If you waited chances are you lost your slot the half you want. Especially if you usually go 2nd half and try to apply for first half. I think they said certain grades they didn't open to new campers at all. So if a 2nd half camper applied first day of priority for first half they could have gotten in instead. She should call the head staff and office and make sure she's first on list if anything opens.


What about sisters who applied at the same time and one got in first half and one for second? Both returning campers who applied for first half. They're not being mentchlich.
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amother
  NeonPurple


 

Post Today at 11:17 am
I don't know the specifics but because Malka closed down the other camps are swamped this year.
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amother
Scarlet


 

Post Today at 11:25 am
I heard Bnos was swamped this year.
I’m sure your niece is a wonderful girl.
I would keep calling - we’re still ‘early’ and there is always movement.
Ask them if there’s a cancellation how close on the list you are to get the slot.
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amother
  Nectarine


 

Post Today at 11:26 am
Malka is reopening under someone else, called Bnos Malka. In terms of bnos, I heard last year already about sisters getting in different halves. The mother called and fixed the situation. Seems like things arent always in order.
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Queen6




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 12:59 pm
If everyone tries for the same 4 camps n there won’t be room with today’s growth. You need to go to the new ones and there are many.
As far as your niece I imagine there is more to the story. Maybe find out a little more before jumping to conclusions.
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notshanarishona  




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 1:09 pm
Why should return campers get kadima? Then because one girl got in in 8th grade she gets a slot till she turns staff while girl b who got rejected that year because she didn’t Have protexia should never get the opportunity because she is a new camper? Doesn’t seem very fair.
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amother
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Post Today at 1:22 pm
Queen6 wrote:
If everyone tries for the same 4 camps n there won’t be room with today’s growth. You need to go to the new ones and there are many.
As far as your niece I imagine there is more to the story. Maybe find out a little more before jumping to conclusions.

There isn't more to the story . How about you enlighten me and tell me what we're missing ?
What conclusion are we jumping to ? That the camp isn't menchlich? Poster above said two sisters applied at the same time and only one got in for first half . They're playing games and they're not being menchlich. That's the whole story.
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amother
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Post Today at 1:25 pm
notshanarishona wrote:
Why should return campers get kadima? Then because one girl got in in 8th grade she gets a slot till she turns staff while girl b who got rejected that year because she didn’t Have protexia should never get the opportunity because she is a new camper? Doesn’t seem very fair.


Of course it's fair . A camper that's been going to camp since they were in fourth grade should get kedima before new campers applying for the first time in 8th grade . How do you think the returning camper got in the first time ? The same way the new camper applying now will get in. A camper that's been to a camp for 4 , 5 years should get a slot before new campers . Once the old campers get slots then they give the opened slots to new campers . That's how it works . A lot of times old campers don't return so there are more slots for new campers . It's only menchlich that returning campers should get priority before new campers . That's how it is in every single camp .
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amother
IndianRed  


 

Post Today at 1:32 pm
amother NeonPurple wrote:
Bnos had very few slots this year. Everyone knew you needed to apply the second it opened. If you waited chances are you lost your slot the half you want. Especially if you usually go 2nd half and try to apply for first half. I think they said certain grades they didn't open to new campers at all. So if a 2nd half camper applied first day of priority for first half they could have gotten in instead. She should call the head staff and office and make sure she's first on list if anything opens.


Confused. If returning campers are first consideration, how does the number of slots impact them? They were all there last year, so there should be slots for them this year unless they made fewer available.
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  Bnei Berak 10  




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 1:39 pm
amother OP wrote:
There isn't more to the story . How about you enlighten me and tell me what we're missing ?
What conclusion are we jumping to ? That the camp isn't menchlich? Poster above said two sisters applied at the same time and only one got in for first half . They're playing games and they're not being menchlich. That's the whole story.

Why don't you call them directly and see what happened and what can be done?
Nothing like direct communication and let them explain themselves to you.
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amother
Oldlace


 

Post Today at 1:44 pm
Was she perhaps friends with some girls that made trouble? This happened once to a friend of mine, even though she herself was a good girl, some of her friends did something and the next year they decided just to not take the entire friend group of like 10 girls. They somehow thought that would be better than just not taking 3 specific girls.
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amother
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Post Today at 1:59 pm
amother Oldlace wrote:
Was she perhaps friends with some girls that made trouble? This happened once to a friend of mine, even though she herself was a good girl, some of her friends did something and the next year they decided just to not take the entire friend group of like 10 girls. They somehow thought that would be better than just not taking 3 specific girls.


No.
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amother
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Post Today at 2:00 pm
Bnei Berak 10 wrote:
Why don't you call them directly and see what happened and what can be done?
Nothing like direct communication and let them explain themselves to you.


Do you actually think they will tell my sister the reason ? She called a few times. All they said was there's no room . No explanation.
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amother
  Bellflower


 

Post Today at 2:05 pm
amother NeonPurple wrote:
I don't know the specifics but because Malka closed down the other camps are swamped this year.


Malka was a relatively small camp. They are now opening as Camp bnos Malka and there is also Camp Tal opening on the old malka grounds being directed by the woman who ran camp LMP after malka closed last year.
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  Bnei Berak 10  




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 2:15 pm
amother OP wrote:
Do you actually think they will tell my sister the reason ? She called a few times. All they said was there's no room . No explanation.

You may try to send an email to camp manager plus all relevant persons as cc. All in correct formal English including all relevant details asking for a valid explanation.
As someone who has worked in customer service I know that any complaint in writing is usually taken better care of vs a phone call. Worth a try.
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amother
  Mimosa  


 

Post Today at 2:22 pm
You still didn’t clarify did they say no room at all or you can come second half but not first half?
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