This Tisha b’av feels different

↑ PinkFridge ↓

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 10:54 am

amother Chartreuse wrote:

I’m so drained and exhausted and depleted that I don’t even have energy to daven. I just want to go to sleep. I’m tired of davening. I’m tired of begging.

We are tired. Even the chachamim who wrote Birchos Hashachar were already tired. Hanosein laya'ef koach. Not ayef but ya'ef, a much, much deeper level of fatigue. That doesn't mean we don't try. I think it's does mean that we got big points for trying.

↑ PinkFridge ↓

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 10:55 am

giftedmom wrote:

I think the fact that Iran is openly trying to “trick” God sort of by deliberately attacking on tishah bav is making me feel like it can’t be successful.

I think about how many assimilated Jews who never heard about Tisha B'Av might have because it was in the news and on talk radio. And maybe they googled and read something meaningful on Aish or elsewhere.

↑ PinkFridge ↓

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 11:01 am

amother Stoneblue wrote:

Yes, and not to mention the pain of constantly being gaslit and having blood libels spread about us, as a nation. This fake/untrue story about Israeli soldiers r*ping a Muslim is just killing me.

It has been proved untrue... And yet the vile comments being said on social media are downright terrifying

Not to mention believing Hamas casualty numbers, being bullied into releasing prisoner with blood on their hands for innocent hostages who were never seen by the Red Cross and on and on and on. This is galus. We haven't experienced it this intensely in a few generations. But it's what our ancestors have experienced.

↑ PinkFridge ↓

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 11:03 am

amother RosePink wrote:

It does feel different, I am even more depressed. It has always been a day of sadness, but instead of mourning the past and what could be, it is a day of fear of what horrific challenges the future holds.
I had a little glimmer of hope last night and walking to shul for Eicha we were discussing what we will each wear to greet Mashiach. But as I woke up and of course Mashiach was not here, and 9av is long over for many Jewish communities in the East.

Our achdus was so high in October/November, but has declined tremendously since then. We are all frum women on this site and can’t even get along.

Anyone remember being so sure Mashiach was going to come with Covid? All the initial acts of Ahava and kiddush Hashem’s which were made (before the fighting and illegal minyan/weddings)

I’m sure in Auschwitz they were all sure Mashiach was coming any day.

Hashem keeps giving us all these opportunities, but in my opinion, we keep blowing them. I believe he would love to give us Mashiach before year 6000, but we fail to deserve.

Maybe the problem is me.

The problem's not you. Many people share some/most/all of your thoughts. Rabbi Lopiansky wrote a few essays on Moshiach and Moshiach fatigue in Mishpacha.
The achdus was high. But can't we maintain our own high level of achdus in our own daled amos? If all of us do this, the energy will definitely radiate.

↑ PinkFridge ↓

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 11:04 am

amother Stoneblue wrote:

This really hit home for me.
Maybe it's time for me to take a long break from this site. The animosity I see in some threads is poison for my neshama.

I wonder if there could be something that before you log in, check out a thread, etc. the first time that day, there would be a small paragraph we'd have to read about v'ahavta l'reiacha kamocha and remembering that everyone has a story and we have to try to hear that story before replying.
Applies to every. single. forum.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen is NOT a se'if in hilchos ona'as devarim.

amother

Cherry ↓

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 11:09 am

PinkFridge wrote:

OK. So now what?

We picked ourselves off the floor. We're going to do laundry and Shabbos shopping and everything else. Can we do it with any of the lessons we learned today, learned about ourselves?

I heard that the Brisker Rav said that there are two parts to Tisha b'Av: 1) feeling the distance from Hashem and the loss of the BHMK, etc. and 2) what's a part of every fast and that's teshuvah.

We're allowed to start adding simchah into our lives. Let's try to serve Hashem with simchah, even if we're confused, and love each other.

I love your posts. They are full of emunah and meaning.

Do you teach?

↑ PinkFridge

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 11:11 am

amother Cherry wrote:

I love your posts. They are full of emunah and meaning.

Do you teach?

Thanks. Going to plead the fifth on your question, though.
There's a spin on the words of Hallel, He'emanti ki adaber: I believe because I keep talking. As I type, know that "I'm typing to myself." Wink

amother

↑ Cherry

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 11:26 am

PinkFridge wrote:

And we all gain when you're 'talking to yourself'!

The way you explain things is very palatable and easy to understand. I was sure you are in Kiruv, or teach teens Very Happy

.

ETA: Maybe you should!

amother

↑ DarkYellow

Wed, Aug 14 2024, 11:38 am

PinkFridge wrote:

You mention moshiach fatigue. I've come to realize that there's nothing in this world that makes sense to me about the ways of hashem.

I think we'd all agree that none of us have the slightest explanation as to why this one is healthy and this one sick. This one rich and this one poor. This person has 10 children and this person is struggling to have any. None of it makes any sense.

Except when it comes to moshiach.

Then we say that if we do this hashem will bring moshiach. If we daven more, do more chessed, talk less loshon hara....then it will make sense and hashem will see we are doing a good job and bring the geula.

Why is this so? Why should hashem's cheshbon with moshiach make any more sense to us than his cheshbon with other things which we can't understand?