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amother
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 Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:46 pm
| Reality wrote: | | Chutnik means someone originally from chutz laaretz, I.e olim. |
Ah ok thanks for explaining. I think in the beginning will definitely be easier for us
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 3:24 pm
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 3:37 pm
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I think efrat might be too modern . Look into Maaleh Amos which is about 10 min past efrat. There's around 150 families. And cheaper housing. And yards. Some Americans. They have plans to build a lot more housing. Right now it might be a little right wing but after building it will def be more of a range of ppl. There's chassidim there too and 1 or 2 chassidish shuls. But I would say most ppl are not chassidish.
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 3:41 pm
| amother Jade wrote: | | I think efrat might be too modern . Look into Maaleh Amos which is about 10 min past efrat. There's around 150 families. And cheaper housing. And yards. Some Americans. They have plans to build a lot more housing. Right now it might be a little right wing but after building it will def be more of a range of ppl. There's chassidim there too and 1 or 2 chassidish shuls. But I would say most ppl are not chassidish. |
Ooh that sounds perfect for us
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 3:49 pm
Altho I forgot to mention you def need your husband fully on board.
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 4:15 pm
| amother Jade wrote: | | Altho I forgot to mention you def need your husband fully on board. |
Of course
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 8:30 pm
| amother Jade wrote: | | Altho I forgot to mention you def need your husband fully on board. |
Oh wait I just looked it up. No way in heavens name would DH live in the West Bank
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 8:32 pm
Sometimes I see people who live in Jerusalem. Daniella Reno, the lady who does penniless parenting. And more. How do these people make Jerusalem work?
There is something compelling me to Jerusalem, I just can’t imagine anything better than waking up in the morning and walking the streets of Jerusalem for my morning walk.
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essie14
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 8:54 pm
| amother OP wrote: | Sometimes I see people who live in Jerusalem. Daniella Reno, the lady who does penniless parenting. And more. How do these people make Jerusalem work?
There is something compelling me to Jerusalem, I just can’t imagine anything better than waking up in the morning and walking the streets of Jerusalem for my morning walk. |
Danielle Renov is Peaslovencarrots , not penniless parenting.
She moved to Jerusalem as a young married with babies. She lives in an apartment in a very expensive area of Jerusalem. How does she make it work? No one is privy to her finances obviously but her children grew up in Israel, most were born here, and from what she shares on Instagram, they go to chareidi schools.
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 8:59 pm
| amother OP wrote: | Sometimes I see people who live in Jerusalem. Daniella Reno, the lady who does penniless parenting. And more. How do these people make Jerusalem work?
There is something compelling me to Jerusalem, I just can’t imagine anything better than waking up in the morning and walking the streets of Jerusalem for my morning walk. |
The lady who does penniless parenting does not live in jerusalem. She lives in a yishuv outside jerusalem.
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amother
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Tue, Aug 06 2024, 9:29 pm
| essie14 wrote: | Danielle Renov is Peaslovencarrots , not penniless parenting.
She moved to Jerusalem as a young married with babies. She lives in an apartment in a very expensive area of Jerusalem. How does she make it work? No one is privy to her finances obviously but her children grew up in Israel, most were born here, and from what she shares on Instagram, they go to chareidi schools. |
Not to make this too personal but she’s very open about where she is from. Her family is wealthy.
I can delete this if it feels too specific but op people who are making this work have the money from somewhere. It is beyond difficult- maybe not doable, to plan for Aliyah without first figuring out your finances.
You don’t have to be rich but you have to be responsible and realistic.
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etky
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 12:47 am
| amother Jade wrote: | | I think efrat might be too modern . Look into Maaleh Amos which is about 10 min past efrat. There's around 150 families. And cheaper housing. And yards. Some Americans. They have plans to build a lot more housing. Right now it might be a little right wing but after building it will def be more of a range of ppl. There's chassidim there too and 1 or 2 chassidish shuls. But I would say most ppl are not chassidish. |
I agree. I don't think Efrat is a good fit.
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amother
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 1:07 am
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amother
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 1:10 am
| amother Chestnut wrote: | Not to make this too personal but she’s very open about where she is from. Her family is wealthy.
I can delete this if it feels too specific but op people who are making this work have the money from somewhere. It is beyond difficult- maybe not doable, to plan for Aliyah without first figuring out your finances.
You don’t have to be rich but you have to be responsible and realistic. |
Sorry, but I completely disagree. I think if you have the will and emuna Hashem will make it work.(speaking as someone who arrived literally penniless and without support with my husband and now we both have b”h very well paying jobs)
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LovesHashem
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 1:13 am
| amother Dimgray wrote: | | Sorry, but I completely disagree. I think if you have the will and emuna Hashem will make it work.(speaking as someone who arrived literally penniless and without support with my husband and now we both have b”h very well paying jobs) |
I know a few people who made aliyah in debt with no money to their name. They are all doing pretty well here.
But they don't live in Jerusalem as well. Although I do know people living in Jerusalem who are very low income.
OP will have to sacrifice something. If you want to make Jerusalem work you can, you might just have to be in a small apartment on the third floor with no elavator
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 2:13 am
| Green Tea wrote: | Efrat! It’s quite chill but more slanted to Dati leumi/chardal
Neve Yaakov technically part of Jerusalem is nice and smallish and has a wonderful chassidish community and davening. The community is very Anglo there.
Maale Amos is a new chassidish kehila in yehuda v’shomron:
https://ch10.co.il/news/866117/
https://maps.app.goo.gl/dDyj3N......copy
If you want more, I can try to help and ask those who know more kehilos.(you can try and pm me) |
Maale amos is mot new at all. It was founded in the 1980s. And is not only chassidish. Its overall charedi.
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amother
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 2:15 am
| shabbatiscoming wrote: | | Maale amos is mot new at all. It was founded in the 1980s. And is not only chassidish. Its overall charedi. |
I appreciate the correction. Perhaps I meant that the chassidish kehila is more recent
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shabbatiscoming
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 2:17 am
| amother Orange wrote: | Rav Yitzchak Berkovitz strongly advises against this. When families ask if they should make aliyah he tells them they have a responsibility not to harm their kids, and he will not allow them to make Aliyah if their oldest is over 8 years old- he will make them wait until their youngest child is at least 16 or 17.
He has decades of experience guiding Americans who make Aliyah so those pushing Aliyah for everyone may want to reach out to him to find out what his concerns are. |
He is a charedi rav so this may be true for charedi families, but definitely not true across the board for olim with kids.
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amother
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 2:31 am
| essie14 wrote: | Danielle Renov is Peaslovencarrots , not penniless parenting.
She moved to Jerusalem as a young married with babies. She lives in an apartment in a very expensive area of Jerusalem. How does she make it work? No one is privy to her finances obviously but her children grew up in Israel, most were born here, and from what she shares on Instagram, they go to chareidi schools. |
I know I was referencing 2 separate people.
Ok that’s helpful info thanks
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amother
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Wed, Aug 07 2024, 2:32 am
| shabbatiscoming wrote: | | He is a charedi rav so this may be true for charedi families, but definitely not true across the board for olim with kids. |
We would probably be chareidi. Or charedi lite. Or chordal. What’s the difference between all?
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