So badly want to go where will we fit in?

↑ Reality ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:40 am

kermit wrote:

I'm not sure about preteens I didn't ask bc we have 4th grader, why not email them and ask?

4 bedroom is 1.1m, 3bd is 900k. for us we've been saving for a house in bklyn so it's what we can swing but not sure how it compares.

we want to be in a more American area bc it will make the transition easier, and comparable size in RBS was more. are there other American areas with large apartments for less?

These prices are in dollars?

Are these villas? I don't think these prices are lower than RBS.

amother

Foxglove

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:42 am

amother OP wrote:

I only Want yerushalayim because I want to be close to the kotel. My family who lives in bet shemesh goes to the kotel once a year maybe.

I lived in yerushlyim for a year with my children ages from 16 to 1 it was tough once we moved to ramet beis shemesh best thing ever

amother

↑ Blue ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:44 am

amother Foxglove wrote:

I lived in yerushlyim for a year with my children ages from 16 to 1 it was tough once we moved to ramet beis shemesh best thing ever

Can you please explain what was tough? What was the deal breaker?

amother

↑ OP ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:48 am

amother Foxglove wrote:

I lived in yerushlyim for a year with my children ages from 16 to 1 it was tough once we moved to ramet beis shemesh best thing ever

Thank you. Did you make Aliyah when your kids were that age? Would love to speak to you if you did

↑ kermit ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:50 am

Reality wrote:

These prices are in dollars?

Are these villas? I don't think these prices are lower than RBS.

dollars. where in RBS are you finding comparable?

we don't want a 4-room apartment -- we want a 4 bedroom apartment (plus American sized kitchen, plus dining & living room, plus really really big porch/terrace etc) the normal ones in RBS gimmel all seem to be 4m+ NIS Crying

tree of life

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:50 am

amother OP wrote:

Thank you. Did you make Aliyah when your kids were that age? Would love to speak to you if you did

Yes we lived in yerushlyim
Happy to speak pm
My children at the beginning was tough with the language but eventually got use to Israel it was harder for me and my husband as the language was very difficult once we moved to beit shemesh everything was so much better

amother

↑ OP ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:51 am

tree of life wrote:

Thanks I’m gonna pm you

↑ Reality ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 10:56 am

kermit wrote:

Convert your dollar prices to shekels. They are almost the exact same price. 4 million NIS now is a drop over a million dollars.

amother85 ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:20 pm

kermit wrote:

where is more affordable? would be nice to spend less

Harish
Carmei gat maybe

(Not saying those are good choices for what OP is looking for, but those are the places I see generally marketed as affordable and with growing Anglo populations)

amother

↑ OP ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:25 pm

amother85 wrote:

Harish
Carmei gat maybe

(Not saying those are good choices for what OP is looking for, but those are the places I see generally marketed as affordable and with growing Anglo populations)

Are they chardal/chareidi?

amother

Seagreen ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:32 pm

Im usually very pro people making Aliyah, I made Aliyah myself when I was single (which came with its own set of challenges but much different than your situation), bH I have been in Israel for almost 10 years and am married with 2 kids.
That being said I agree with posters saying that now just doesn’t seem like the right time for your family.
Making Aliyah with teens/pre teens is HARD and I think most important is to have both parents united, on the same team, and ready to deal with the inevitable challenges they will face here- Parnassa, culture, school, lang, etc…
I think it’s beautiful that you are so passionate and it is fun to think “what if” and make plans that maybe one day will come to fruition but as long as your husband isn’t on board it sounds to me like a non starter…

amother

↑ Seagreen ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:34 pm

That being said I agree with posters saying RBS
possibly the gush but may be too modern hashkafically, and the prices are pretty high!
But Anglo prices everyone are high
Real estate in Israel has gone through the roof…

amother

↑ Seagreen ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:40 pm

Last thing…
About your feeling that Israeli imas tend to get very defensive about this topic…
I think they are more bothered by people who Aliyah isn’t on their radar and have absolutely no interest in it. Meaning if your husband posted about his wife wanting to make Aliyah but he is completely uninterested people would prob jump down his throat with sources and reasons why it is so wonderful and amazing and important to live in Israel
But when someone comes on and says I would love more than anything to live in Israel but for the following reasons it’s not going to work for me right now, I think it is very commendable and super justified. It’s unfortunate that you and your husband aren’t on the same team, that must be really difficult!!

someone ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:41 pm

OP, I may have been one of the posters who offended people on other threads (although I really tried not to etc etc). I just want to say that I admire you for wanting to check this out and see if its possible for your family, regardless of what happens in the end. Your love for EY is so beautiful and inspiring.
It sounds like it would be a good idea to talk to NBN and ask them for ideas of places, and then get contact information of people who live there and talk to them.
Maybe it's worth looking at two scenarios - a place that would be suitable for you guys now (of course if your husband and kids were on board and it was financially feasible), and a place that would be suitable for you in the future, which would give you a goal to work towards (financially and practically).
From what I've read on this site RBS definitely sounds worth checking out. If you would be prepared to live over the green line you would have more of a chance of finding bigger houses and not apartments, etc.

amother

Feverfew

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 12:49 pm

Just came on here to say that you can dream and dream of aliyah but it doesn't need to happen now!

My parents dreamed of making aliyah from the moment they got married but could never move. They were tied down job-wise, then their kids were bigger and the adjustment would be too hard etc.

Now, after 25 years of marriage and their youngest about to graduate HS, they finally bought an apartment in the outskirts of RBS and they're planning on moving in a year.

It may be much easier when your kids are all grown up...

amother

Tealblue

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 1:11 pm

Just to put out a perspective that helped us before we moved last year. Our older kids (preteen and young teen) were more successful than our younger kids. We were told in some places this advice about older kids is outdated. We chose RBS for the soft landing. My kid’s classes were between 30 and 50% Anglo. If you do choose a community it merits speaking to recent Olim

↑ Reality ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 1:24 pm

amother Tealblue wrote:

I will say it under my screenname. I am a couple of years ahead of you and had the exact same experience.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Tue, Aug 06 2024, 1:39 pm

someone wrote:

I definitely was one of those people you offended. So now because I’m showing I want to go it’s ok, but when I didn’t share my whole thought process you didn’t accept?