Please explain to me what wanting woman to Lein Megilla is

amother

Quince ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:16 pm

chanatron1000 wrote:

Things can be different and equal or different and unequal, but if they're different and unequal, one has to be greater and the other lesser.

This is totally a side point, but these comments always get me wondering... Do you want to be the leader of your home?

amother

↑ Viola ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:16 pm

amother Lily wrote:

I'm not one of those women, but, I get what it's like to feel that you have strengths that are not being tapped by women's mitzvos, that would be tapped by men's mitzvos. Sometimes I wonder: of Hashem wanted women to act a certain way and fulfill a certain role, why why why did He create me far more suited for the opposite role?

You're probably just brainwashed by feminism. If it weren't for that darned education you got, you would be very content to make tablescapes and tricolor kugels, fulfilling Hashem's plan for you.

/s

amother

↑ Bluebell ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:17 pm

amother Viola wrote:

You're probably just brainwashed by feminism. If it weren't for that darned education you got, you would be very content to make tablescapes and tricolor kugels, fulfilling Hashem's plan for you.

/s

How do you know that’s Hashem’s plan for women? Where do you take it from?

↑ shabbatiscoming ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:19 pm

amother Tan wrote:

Ummm I don’t do all this.
I don’t think women who lein are doing it lishma. They’re doing it for kavod. To prove to everyone they can do it. Which is completely misguided.

If this is what you think, I can honestly say, you are most probably not part of the community where women lein for women.
It is 100% NOT for any kavod. They do it to feel a connectuon to hashem and their judaism.

↑ shabbatiscoming ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:24 pm

amother Tan wrote:

I can’t speak for anyone, but I think it’s because they’re uneducated. They think that men are better (which isn’t true, men are different and have different mitzvot). Some think they have to prove something. So for example when I see a woman wearing a kipah, I think to myself that women have so many special mitzvot only for them. When I can do those mitzvot 100% correctly then I can try to take on something. Like tefillin or leining or whatever.

You are soooo far beyond wrong with this one.
The women I know who are leining are very educated. And do not think men are better. I really think that if this is what you think of this, you have no ideas and are not part of that world. You are beyond wrong.

↑ zaq

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:24 pm

amother Viola wrote:

If women are inherently on a higher spiritual level, why don't men go to them for spiritual advice?

Perhaps for the same reason they refuse to ask for directions when they're lost.

amother

↑ Quince ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:25 pm

zaq wrote:

Perhaps for the same reason they refuse to ask for directions when they're lost.

This is just too good.

amother

↑ Wine

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:29 pm

amother Viola wrote:

If women are inherently on a higher spiritual level, why don't men go to them for spiritual advice?

In my world they do.
(Yeshivish)

↑ shabbatiscoming ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:30 pm

amother Quince wrote:

This is totally a side point, but these comments always get me wondering... Do you want to be the leader of your home?

I hate to break it to you, but many women ARE the leaders of their homes.
And I dont care what anyone says, that men are supposed to be the head of the families. In todays reality, many many women are doing that role. Some by choice and others because the husband is just not doing it.

essie14 ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:32 pm

amother Tan wrote:

Ummm I don’t do all this.
I don’t think women who lein are doing it lishma. They’re doing it for kavod. To prove to everyone they can do it. Which is completely misguided.

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

↑ Elfrida

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:33 pm

amother Quince wrote:

This is totally a side point, but these comments always get me wondering... Do you want to be the leader of your home?

When I was dating, it was a priority to me to marry someone who would be a partner in running the home.

amother

↑ Bluebell ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:34 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

I actually disagree. I think a marriage is supposed to be a partnership. And that that’s the epitome of it. If one “leads”, than automatically the other falls away. Look at the Sheba brachos- it’s all about love and friendship

↑ shabbatiscoming ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:37 pm

amother Bluebell wrote:

I 100% agree with you. I was pointing out to the reply that not all jewish households have the man as the leader. That is a very antiquated idea. And there are so msny threads here about husbsnds that dont do anything at home, least of all, lead a household.
Many women on this site dont like this equal talk. I dont understand why. But that is what I was addressing.

amother

↑ Tan ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:44 pm

essie14 wrote:

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

Quite possible.
I don’t have an urge to do many things a man does. I’m fine doing my womanly things.

amother

↑ Tan ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:47 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

I agree.
But I also think that alot if times when women on this site complain, they exaggerate. Or change the facts to remain anonymous. Remember, this is the internet…

amother

↑ Oxfordblue ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:50 pm

amother Wine wrote:

In my world they do.
(Yeshivish)

I'm in the yeshivish world, and I don't see this AT ALL. Can you provide an example of a man asking a woman's advice regarding spiritual matters in the yeshivish world? We ask Rabbanim and Roshei Yeshivah.

amother

↑ Quince ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:56 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

I know. I'm not asking if there is such a thing. I'm asking if you WANT to be followed by your husband or if you want to be lead by him.

↑ shabbatiscoming ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:58 pm

amother Quince wrote:

I know. I'm not asking if there is such a thing. I'm asking if you WANT to be followed by your husband or if you want to be lead by him.

Why does it have to be either of these? Why not a partnership? No following the other?

amother

↑ Quince ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:59 pm

Elfrida wrote:

When I was dating, it was a priority to me to marry someone who would be a partner in running the home.

Yes, but it's impossible to be equal for everything. I was responding to a post that said: Things can be different and equal or different and unequal, but if they're different and unequal, one has to be greater and the other lesser.

If you think things are unequal there has to be a greater and lesser in the equation.

If you think everything between man and woman are equal, this question is not for you.

amother

↑ Quince ↓

Sun, Mar 24 2024, 9:59 pm

shabbatiscoming wrote:

Why does it have to be either of these? Why not a partnership? No following the other?

So men and women are totally equal?