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amother
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 Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:50 am
| Ema of 5 wrote: | | Have you seen clips of random Americans singing? Or random Europeans? Many of them can’t sing either. |
Yes I’ve seen tons of random singing all the time IRL and on clips and didn’t notice what I’ve noticed here.
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:51 am
I have no clue what you're talking about and I'm quite sensitive to bad singing. Are you talking about mizrachi music?
I wasn't aware of this until recently, but apparently some people who are only used to western music can't "hear" certain types of Middle Eastern or Andalusian music. Are you one of those people?
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amother
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:54 am
| WhatFor wrote: | I have no clue what you're talking about and I'm quite sensitive to bad singing. Are you talking about mizrachi music?
I wasn't aware of this until recently, but apparently some people who are only used to western music can't "hear" certain types of Middle Eastern or Andalusian music. Are you one of those people? |
I’m also very sensitive to bad singing. Literally hurts my ears. No, not mizrachi. Just general clips of people singing at the kotel or unfortunately funerals, etc. I think Pear explained it best. They just have a different version of singing the same songs I grew up with so it seems off to me.
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amother
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:55 am
Love it and completely on tune. I’d love to post clips of what I meant. I just have a hard time uploading here but I’ll try.
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:56 am
| amother Pear wrote: |
I think perhaps the issue is that the clips you are watching are of israeli soldiers singing songs that we sing slightly differently in america so it sounds off tune to you. it actually isn't, it's just a slightly different version of whatever it is that you are used to. I've seen many clips like that. |
You might be on to something
Listen to this mashup of morale songs that the IDF Rabbanut put together. It's very much on tune.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5eJqw0t3e9c
Do they sing them differently in America?
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:56 am
Oh good. Is this going to become a thread of clips of Israelis singing? Prepare to be spammed. No going back now!
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keym
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:57 am
One thing I did notice is that take "Acheinu".
The Israeli way has different flourishes, different places they drag out or push words together.
Different than the typical American way.
That doesn't make either one better, worse, on tune or off.
Like Abie Rottenbergs song about the Sefardi and Chassidishe guy singing Baruch kel Elton. The tune is the same, but the flourishes and 'ay yay yay' are different
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:57 am
| WhatFor wrote: | Oh good. Is this going to become a thread of clips of Israelis singing? Prepare to be spammed. No going back now!
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Yalla! Bring it on!!
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:57 am
Actually, technically speaking some accents are better than others for singing.
For example, American (especially country) Filipino accents make it easier to sing technically well. British accents for example are not so conducive to the proper singing techniques. And Israeli accents, too.
*this does not mean they can’t sing well or it can’t sound good*
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amother
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 6:58 am
| essie14 wrote: | They sound on tune to me
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This is a bit what I meant although with the music it’s sounding okay. The clips I’m talking about didn’t have music to cover up.
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 7:00 am
Maybe the Israeli ha'avara bothers you because you're not used to it.
I think you have to cut people some slack. Mourners breaking into song at a funeral for a chayal didn't exactly rehearse beforehand. They're crying and expressing deep deep pain through song.
May you never know such pain.
I've been at military funerals. You can't imagine the pain.
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amother
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 7:01 am
| WhatFor wrote: | Oh good. Is this going to become a thread of clips of Israelis singing? Prepare to be spammed. No going back now!
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Lol! I’m obsessed with good singing! Bring it on!
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 7:02 am
| amother OP wrote: | Disclaimer: I am beyond thankful to the IDF. We owe them EVERYTHING and more. I daven for them daily.
Not trying to make fun, but I find it interesting. I’ve watched many clips of them singing and they all seem off tune and off tone. Is it just an Israeli way of singing?
I really hope no one is offended by this! |
Oh no. Not offensive at all. 
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Thu, Jan 11 2024, 7:02 am
I honestly can't really watch this one since Yotam was killed 
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