What is the difference between Aguda midwest, and Maarava?

amother

OP ↓

Sun, Oct 23 2022, 11:27 pm

Actually, what is the difference between aguda midwest, maarava, and MTM, and how do they compare to Maayan?

Thank you!

amother

Snowflake ↓

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 1:55 am

Mayan is much more modern than any of the others. Look at their website. Not a typical BY camp.

I know of (yeshivish OOT) sisters and classmates who went to MTM and Maarava. Both are Bais Yaakov type. They sounded pretty similar to me.

I think agudah Midwest MIGHT be a little more OOT (less in-town yeshivish style) than MTM and Maarava.

amother

Honey

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 2:53 am

Marrava is VERY out of town and more yishevish then aguda ( I lived in 5 towns ) I went to Marrava 10 years ago idk if it changed.. but when I went there was barley girls from in town Brooklyn, 5 towns or Lakewood went to Marrava
I did hav 5-6 girls go to aguda mid west Fromm my class..

amother

Valerian

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 6:41 am

Agudah Midwest and Maarava are both Agudah camps. I’m not sure what the differences are supposed to be, but they are both operated by the Agudah based in Chicago. Midwest is in Western Michigan and Maarava is in Indiana I believe.

Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 7:42 am

amother Honey wrote:

It's changed. There are a LOT of Lakewood girls in maarava now.

MTM is similar demographics I believe.

amother

Honeydew

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 8:03 am

Yes a lot of Lakewood girls go to maarava. From the girls I know maarava crowd seems more yeshivish than Midwest but both frum BY type.

PinkFridge ↓

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 8:17 am

amother Honey wrote:

Funny how some will say it's OOT, some will say not. It depends on one's perspective and what one's comparing it to.
My understanding is that Agudah Midwest has a more OOT feel than Maarava.
There probably is a lot of overlap though.

↑ PinkFridge

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 8:18 am

Hashem_Yaazor wrote:

It's changed. There are a LOT of Lakewood girls in maarava now.

MTM is similar demographics I believe.

Odds are OOTers are going to be outnumbered wherever they go.

amother

↑ OP

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 8:43 am

wow, this is helpful, thank you!

any more thoughts from the morning crowd are welcome....

Chayalle

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 9:05 am

I know two different families in Lakewood who send their DD's to MTM. One family is super-yeshivish in-towny, and one is very JPF, and somewhat OOT.

mha3484 ↓

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 10:51 am

I live in Chicago, I have friends and neighbors who sent girls to all three camps. Maayan is mostly girls from the centrist school here and a few from bais yaakov.

AMW is the girls from the left to center parts of bais yaakov and maarava is the more yeshivish girls.

LK1

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 11:45 am

Maarava and MTM today are pretty intowny and Yeshivish. Especially MTM.
Aguda is way more OOT.

Tova ↓

Mon, Oct 24 2022, 2:58 pm

My daughter attended both AMW and Maarava last summer and really loved both of them. It was her experience that Maarava is more yeshivish and more "with it" in terms of brand and fashion although as an out of towner she fit in well and made good friends there. It was not too cliquey or in-towny for her (which was my worry). A good half or almost half of her Maarava bunk was from Lakewood but her AMW bunk was more diverse.

amother

Puce ↓

Mon, Nov 21 2022, 5:26 pm

Would you say these camps are more "campy and outdoorsy?"

amother

Clear ↓

Tue, Dec 06 2022, 6:53 pm

I disagree, the only not bais yaakov thing about Maayan is no knee socks required. Otherwise everything else about them is a standard bais yaakov camp. And the staff is pretty right wing bais yaakov.
Aguda Midwest is definitely more yeshivish, but there is a lot of overlap.

amother

Peach

Tue, Dec 06 2022, 7:45 pm

amother Peru wrote:

Which camp has best chance of getting in? 9th grade dd...

I’d guess Midwest. Maarava gets a lot of in towners.