S/o Rav Tov memories

amother

↑ OP ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 7:37 am

My last yr in camp was abt 21-23 yrs ago. When I was in ninth grade Perry Leichtag and Markovich were headteacher in choodush. When I was in 10th grade Elky Berger was my teacher.

amother

↑ Papaya ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 7:44 am

amother [ Pink ] wrote:

You mean dressed in costumes.
Those were my times too. They were still called miss when I was in 8th/9th/10th but that was dropped a year or two later I think
Counselors were 11th graders and went by first names

ETA my last year in camp was 11 years ago

Yea costumes.. I think my last year in camp was 11 years ago too.. 11th grade.

amother

↑ Teal ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 7:57 am

Up until 15 years ago, approximately, 10th grade was divided amongst the bunkhouses as "counselors" for younger girls. They slept in the same large room or had a sectioned off area, 2-6 10th graders to 15-30 younger aged girls.

We called the rooms/bunkhouses "bunks". The 12th grade age "headcounselors" oversaw a group of bunks and graded each bunk's cleanliness every morning before Shiur.

Each grade was divided into "classes"for davening/shout/activities etc and had a LK name usually taken out of יוצרות . 😉 We had teachers to lead each class called Miss Lastname.

Each group of grades was called a "transport". The heads were "headteachers".

Correct me if I am mistaken or omitted anything important.

(Trying to explain to those who are confused)

amother

↑ Mistyrose

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:01 am

This reminds me of moutain creek when someones turnban came flying out of the high anxiety slide before the person it belonged to did LOL

Poor woman. I don't remenber who it was. Maybe rosenbaum? Zul zee reeyan in lichtign gan eiden!

Edited to add MBR

amother

Salmon

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:17 am

I remember when our camp used to go to Rav Tov for competition we used to sing along
אה מחנה רב טוב אוי ווי גיט
די ביסט מיט מיר א יעדע טריט און שריט
ס'איז א כלל מיין צווייטע היים שמ'סט איבעראל
מחנה רב טוב דרבינו יואל!
And our camp director would try to shut us up.....

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:29 am

amother [ Wine ] wrote:

I'm not from Satmar, but why do you keep on referring to Teacher/class, as opposed to counselors/bunk?

bc a bunk is where you slept and a counselor was the girl who was in charge of cleanup in your bunk. the class and teacher were where you spent your time with activities. It's been changed since then.

rdmom wrote:

Mama bear. So the year that you were in 9th grade was the only year I was in camp. I was in 6th grade. I remember אבני מלוון גוט שבת. ברקת ריפט אויס א גיט שבת. But for the life of me, I can’t remember the name of my class. We were in the hospital bunk. 20 I think. But I was only there that one year and the details are all fuzzy.
And yes, I had a culture shock when I went to a different camp and everybody had to play during activities. Because in satmar, I had one classmate who was great in sports and she played it all. Every single time. And we just sat around and stared.
Then I remember we made epes a play in the Alta shpil hoiz and I didn’t have what to do. I was busy helping in the back. Or on the side.
Wow. This thread brings back memories

lol! cute! so youre 3 yrs below me

amother [ Fuchsia ] wrote:

U must be a bobba or almost an elter bobba
Don't recall any of those names. Not even from my older sisters years

I'm 44 so I'm Bobba aged, but my oldest is only 15 so I'm still like a young mom. Lol. I was in camp between 1989 and 1993, so of course you dont know any of it lol

amother

Brown ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:31 am

amother [ Aubergine ] wrote:

I remember so much pressure. And sometimes fear.

Terrified they'd find my "unkosher" tapes - MBD and Avraham Fried, nebech farfooren in shol tachtis arein - (which I copied myself and mislabeled). Hearing rumors of an inspection and hiding it in my laundry bag but still afraid because classmates said they also check there

what was the problem with Avraham Fried?

amother

↑ OP ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:50 am

amother [ Brown ] wrote:

what was the problem with Avraham Fried?

Avraham Fried?? Shaaa! Treif!!

amother

↑ Brown

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:53 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Avraham Fried?? Shaaa! Treif!!

seriously? why? because its in English?

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:57 am

amother [ Cyan ] wrote:

s'iz zeirus gereirus, nisht machin shpas...

It's actually:

ס'איז זרת
דערהער עס
און בלייבט געשפאנט
א שייכות צו יד אחת
א חלק פון האנט

The incredible Miriam Yitty Gruber / Holtzer, my first cousin, compsed this cheer. She was THE go-to person for camp songs and cheers in the 90's. Her stuff is out of this world.

if you want some cool trivia, I had 17 adorable 7th graders. And about 12 of them had a 17 year old brother. I was already shidichim minded and kept dreaming of whose sister-in-law I'll be. There was one girl that I figured I'd never fit into her family , she's so not my type, I can cross her off the list. Guess what? I did marry her brother. LOL. And she turned out to be so different now as an adult, I never thought we'd be close and we are! LOL

amother [ Blush ] wrote:

and those headteachers marching around with their boards were intimidating

Oh man. Tell me about it. When I was a teacher, I was determined to be a lot friendlier with my students (Oh how I loved each and every one of them). I sat with them and shmoozed with them for hours. I didnt let them call me "ir" but "di". And nebech when Miriam Zeesy Spitzer passed by and heard them call me "di", she nebich lectured them on how chitzpehdig they are to me. I had to step in and tell her that I'm allowing them to be less formal with me, I felt so bad! So I got lectured not to let them be chitzpehdig to me. Lol. I am so not a disciplinarian!

asmileaday wrote:

So funny! You described everything exactly the way we felt when our camp used to come play against their camp. We were partly amused partly incredulous that this is what they call "camp".
I remember staring in amazement at those shelves in the bunkhouse. The tops were folded razor sharp and organized by color not by individual camper. Like all blue shirts on one pile all pink ones on another.

If you notice, Satmar is the last kehillah to reluctantly change anything from how it was done in der alter heim. lol. So when camp started in the 60's, those hungarian balabustes ran camp like a boot camp, everything had to be perfectly neat. So it took decades to let go of that.

amother [ Ruby ] wrote:

I’m so rolling from this thread. How did I miss this. Those were the years and oh did I wait for camp all year long.
And Mama bear I think you were my counselor.

Seriously? In Bunk 6? Fourth grade? PM me who you are. I'll keep it secret.

amother [ Hotpink ] wrote:

Quote:

The alteh shpeelhoize was used by first transport in my days. And families lived on top. Anyone remember ח.ג.? ooh I have to start a new thread

Who's it? seems like you have a whole lot to share since you're thinking of a S/O
Just wondering...

oops. I really meant to write , that I have to start a new POST. not a new thread. it was late at night. I indeed posted it separately inside this thread.

amother [ Slateblue ] wrote:

Oh no! Why spew hate? Why wish death on anyone?

Well if you would hear the rhetoric Governor Coma is using to describe us lately, you would agree with me. Every time he talk about withholding funding from yeshivas bc it's the only language they'll understand, nothing else is working with them, it makes me so angry. Stop with the JEws = money hungry stereotypes!

Also, I was only kind of joking.

amother [ Babyblue ] wrote:

I remember being shocked when we visited Satmar camp. The way the headcounselors were called on their last names. Miss whatever. They were referred to as headteachers & counselors as teachers with last name. Head counselors were in fancy outfits like suits, hi heels, their hair blow dryed. No ponies, sneakers, funky TShirts or dressed up silly for special days, special tops with camp theme wording.... It was a culture shock from our own camp.

Those bunkhouses, tons of them lined up so close to each others looked like barracks....it gave me a freaky feeling of Holocoaust not camp. Those were immaculate inside, you were able to lick the floor clean. Girls did all these jobs as mandatory chores or as activities.
Camp I was coming from, the messier the room, the more fun. We had cleaning chores, but simple stuff. Washing floors and toilets were left to the janitors.
Our camp had a competition sport game against them. There were tons of bleachers till the ceiling where everyone was standing, watching the champion competitors in center & cheering for their division. It was indoor called shpiel house. I thought it was for special events or competition sports but I was wrong, we were told that every activity is conducted that way. It's always basically same champion sports players sent to play, to represent their bunk.

I didn't see major playing fields outside where everyone in bunk should participate in an activity together.

Later as staff some were counselors, the rest were called logos and had a side job like kokosh cake cutters, egg crackers, bread slicers/smearers etc.
I found it hysterical when heard about it, because all these jobs were filled by kitchen staffers, in our camp, not as staff job or as an activity.

Youre describing to a "T", camp up til MBR and upended the system.

To be fair, Satmar always prided itself on being Hungarian perfectionist balabustas and that was part of the goal of camp, to teach girls how to keep house / keep clean / learn balabusta things. Believe me, growing up in a small family where things were just naturally neat, and we had plenty of cleaning help, many of these jobs were new to me and challenging to learn, and it also taught me a lot I would not have learned myself. My 4th grade bunker taught me a shortcut on putting linen on a blanket!

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 8:59 am

amother [ Brown ] wrote:

what was the problem with Avraham Fried?

We were only allowed to have camp shalva or Yom Tov Ehrlich tapes. None of the 'modern' singers.

amother

↑ Cyan ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 9:03 am

Mama Bear wrote:

omg. Miriam Zeesy shpitzer. you have such an amazing memory. I was in Kuseif.

thinkermother ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 9:44 am

thanks for all the entertainment! my ninth grade class was hayom tisasher!! anyone else?

anyone remember "heint beis shoftim. tuf shiyen niyen zoyin, machne hachudosh, marish mamluchos...."

and would love love the rest of the song beni mein kind!

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amother

Brunette ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 9:46 am

Mama Bear do you remember me? I sat on the bleacher on top of you at shir in the alte shpil hoiz. (We met years later in aishes chayil) I was laughing so loud at this thread. Do you remember on shiva asur btamuz only the fasters would get the special oasfast bags. And Viggy would look at each girl to see if she was take fasting. if he suspected a fraud he'd tell you to 'shteck arois dein tzing!'.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 9:47 am

thinkermother wrote:

thanks for all the entertainment! my ninth grade class was hayom tisasher!! anyone else?

Oh my! I remember cheering that name but I could not remember what grade I was in. What was the other class's name?

↑ thinkermother ↓

Fri, Oct 16 2020, 9:48 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Oh my! I remember cheering that name but I could not remember what grade I was in. What was the other class's name?

if only I could remember! its somewhere in the hoshana rabba tefilla lol. remember one class was called nekida elyona

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