S/o Rav Tov memories

minnie mouse ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:41 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

Page 13 here... I havent read anything yet.... but....
I'm so old that probably very few of you were there in my times.
I started camp in 7th grade, I was in מאה אחוזים and my class was עשר
In 8th grade I was in chudosh, in פרדס מבחר, my class was אתרוגים.
In 9th grade I was in the very ill-fated אבני מלואים in ברקת....
we had the salmonella outbreak....
"ברקת ברקת צוקוועטשטע פאטעיטאס"...
"אין הארלעם פראוועט מען האלאווין"....
10th grade I was a fourth grade counselor. My almost favorite year. I loved my girls. I made a ton of money in tips!
11th grade, I was a 7th grade teacher.... we were in יד אחת, and my class was זרת. my favorite year!!

If you were in camp any of these years and you remember anything of what I wrote, pipe up!

Btw I take credit for this thread, bc all of my comments on the Yiddish lyrics thread inspired all this Very Happy

Yup! I'm a grade below you!

amother

↑ Blonde

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:41 pm

The one thing I can relate are the songs and ‘cheers’. Seems those were passed along to the younger generation

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:41 pm

yitta25 wrote:

The bread and cocosh cake slicer in the front of the es zal.
The smell of toast by Mrs spreis bungalow. The tea. The chewable amoxil.
The summer of the food poisening from the soft serve ice cream.
The real dishes that was used until the summer of the food poisening. The smell of that milchige washroom where those dishes were kept

I was there during the food poisoning. I got it too.
The ENTIRE camp emptied out for Tisha B'av. The only girl who stayed in camp was Shevy Ekstien... my classmate... her parents were in Argentina (her father was the rav in Buenos Aires then) and she had nowhere to go. Poor girl. (Her mother and her husband passed away in the past year btw, super sad.She's only in her 40's. Freaky thing to have a classmate an almanah.)

↑ yitta25 ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:42 pm

amother [ Beige ] wrote:

You must be around my age.... I was in 8th grade the summer of the food poisoning.

I was in 4th grade

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:43 pm

You know what's really funny? that the scary ruchnius ladies from those camps are not scary at all. Once I became an adult I started talking to them normally, mother to mother. "ח.ג. ראזענבערגער" is actually a delightful person, as are Mrs. Laylee Posen & Mrs. Herzog and whichever other ruchnius ladies were on premises. Even Rebbetzin Hinda Halberstam who is a formidable force -- when I meet her at a doctor's waiting room etc I talk to her as if we are contemporaries. We were scared stiff of those ladies for no reason. Now as an adult I feel so weird when kids like my neighbors are 'scared' of me -- I still feel youthful and want to be their friend but they look at us at a real distance.

↑ minnie mouse ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:44 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

I stayed in camp too! My parents left to new hampshire the morning after tisha bav so I had to stay in camp....

↑ yksraya ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:46 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

What's the name of the one with the purple tights?

↑ yksraya ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:48 pm

Lol, mamabear don't tell me you were scared of the ruchnis ladies...
We had to hide our smirks...was so funny some of them. The rest I played on. Even yusho I played on. Wasn't scared at all.

amother

Babyblue ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:52 pm

I remember our camp visiting satmar camp & they were cheering for yad achas

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:52 pm

Some other memories many of you probably dont even remember:

mr. Kohn's EPIC kiddush and the way we all mimic'ed him... the super loud enthusiastic YOOOOIIIIM HASHISHEEE....

and I dont think ANY OF YOU were in camp the summer that Rivka Tzirel Ashkenazi fooled EVERYONE in the entire camp, including Mr. Herzog & Mr. Kohn, with a fake letter she sent that there's a new pirtzah in camp, an English book called THE MAN that is circulating among the girls and is a terrible book....

Zehava

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:54 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

Sigh
They don’t make em like they used to

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↑ Mama Bear ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:54 pm

amother [ Bronze ] wrote:

I dont think some of the staff members even understood how to deal with kids. Mrs Weiss once punished a kid for screaming when she saw a spider, forced the kid to go sleep in the younger kids bunk. Literally, late at night got the kid to put on a robe, remove the linen from the bed and shlep with the linen and blanket to another bunk to sleep. All because the kid was scared of a spider.
And Mr. Rosenberg locked a kid in a makeshift cage amongst all the other ridiculous things he did. And the yelling Can't Believe It

I think both of these kids are OTD today. One tried to commit suicide and last I heard is in a coma Crying

this is AWFUL. wow.

amother [ Aubergine ] wrote:

I remember so much pressure. And sometimes fear.

Terrified they'd find my "unkosher" tapes - MBD and Avraham Fried, nebech farfooren in shol tachtis arein - (which I copied myself and mislabeled). Hearing rumors of an inspection and hiding it in my laundry bag but still afraid because classmates said they also check there

ahh yes. Only in 10th grade could I finally relax, bc I was in a counselors room and knew my locker would not be searched.

amother [ Cyan ] wrote:

Benching out loud, and the Boro park and Monroe / willi mocking each other with the lamed variations
Nosh boxes under the bench.
Big bites and box drinks from the canteen
getting away with wearing a bathing suit under the shvimkleid
faking hamapil , and then making a fig when lying when asked if you said hamapil
super organized detergents on top of the lockers
Jobs around the bunk, sweep 1,2, mop 1,2, bathroom 1, 2, 3, 4.

This is the most accurate description of my camp experiences LOL

Madam F. wrote:

Yup mrs feketa!! Mr kohns daughter I can still hear her hoarse voice.
Are you related to her or friends?

Chana Baila Kohn was my teacher in 8th grade camp (Esrogim). A doll!!! A real temimusdiga, heartzige, ibergegaibene, emesdiga person. I have not seen her in YEARS and I can guarantee you she'll remember me....

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 8:56 pm

gamzehyaavor wrote:

And Chas Shulem you were late to class... you got a pintel & then detention.

And camp time!

But, the simplicity, the girls being creative and coming up with their own fun. Not all the craziness camp has become. Mbr changed things a lot in the world of satmar Camps. The competition was great to stop with the rigidity and have more of a program. But l’masa kids now are spoiled...

Oh yes. MBR changed up how satmar runs camps. It's run completely differently these days.
When pupa or viznitz came to visit satmar they were amazed at how neat and clean and bootcamp-like our camp was run. They had never heard of such a strict setup.

Hantiga maidlech you can't make them be this way.... it's a different era...

it was even worse when my mother grew up. she started going to camp in pre 1-A. All they ever did was play board games or sports. no major activities .
By the time I was in 9th grade there were ONLY major activities.

amother [ Beige ] wrote:

You must be around my age.... I was in 8th grade the summer of the food poisoning.

That's one grade below me!

↑ yksraya ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 9:00 pm

Mr. Kohns Kiddush... We used to katcha for gelechter...

amother

Blush ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 9:03 pm

Anyone remember hershela einhorn?

↑ yksraya ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 9:05 pm

amother [ Blush ] wrote:

Anyone remember hershela einhorn?

Yeah.although I didn't go to satmar camp till 7th grade. So my bunk was never near there.

amother

Mistyrose ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 9:09 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

Yup. Bunks 20 and 21 I think.

I was a counselor in bunk 6. Oy how I loved the counselors room.

The ones that were looooong? That was bunk 19. It was my bunk one year.
Amd I was in bunk 6. Maybe you were my counselor?
One year mimi socks was my "teacher" I always managed to miss "class" davening and shiur) LOL

She was so nice!
I don't remember my other teachers name.
Another year I had horrible couselors. And I packed up one day in middle of the day, called the guy who had a shuttle between the camps (I think moskowitz?) And used up all my pocket and showed up at MBR. Rolling Laughter

I remember how staff had no clue what to do with me. Boy was that fun! Those last few weeks. I kicked myself why I didnt go there from day 1.

We did the whole shower w shvimkleider together...

I remember running into supper all muddy from that very steep mud puddle back/side of D building.... It was roasted chicken. We were so wild. We took off all tops from the chicken ate it and ran out.
Omg! I was such a pig!

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 9:09 pm

amother [ Papaya ] wrote:

I LOVED singing too.
Something about the singing Friday night after the meal, in the shpielhose, nothing rushing anyone out...
Nevermind the white bluskas and black skirt for the choir girls.

NOTHING quite like those kumzitzes. We learned the most gorgeous songs then.

amother [ Papaya ] wrote:

Ya, they're alta kokers. Nearly a decade older
Oh, but don't take offense, you guys seem to have a memory like eisen. I have a crazy short and vague memory.

Also, in the olden days, it was THE GIRLS who made camp a hit. With their imagination and creativity.

I still have all the photo albums I made of my camp days. Sadly, no one is gonna care about them ever as I don't have daughters. I doubt that in 20 years my potential granddaughters will care about their ancient bubby's camp albums from the 90's.

yksraya wrote:

In the a git morgen it was always reffered to Mrs zupnicks camp Rav tov.

She stayed in a tiny bungalow near bunk 6. That summer I officially sold 'der yid' to the families and to the girls who wanted them. My father would put a whole bunch on the camp bus & I'd sell them. Mrs. zupnik made sure I put one away for her every week.

yksraya wrote:

It changed a lot since then...
Dd went one year to chodosh, she hates how they have so much squeezed in into one day that there is no free time! Ha ppl, we had almost only free time!

Yeah, we were 'logo'ing around half the time...

amother [ Blue ] wrote:

Lol. You cracked me up.
Still remember how I drank it with a פארשטאפטע נאז
So I shouldn't feel the actual taste

oh yeah. what a memory. I'm rolling.

gamzehyaavor wrote:

And the punch sink (to mask the the kvall vaster egg taste) with the bees

The italian ices in the little paper cups.... omg. best treat on the planet. I am craving some right now.

realsilver wrote:

I didn’t go to satmer but watched many machanayim games between my camp and yours. I’ll never forget you ppl were powerhouses!! When a rav tov girl threw a ball, she THREW a ball!!

oh, the inter-camp visit was my favorite thing! and chas v'shulem we should ever visit another camp, the camps always camp to us.

Today, machne rav tov visits machne bais ruchel and I love it. All the old-timer satmar people who fight about politics can go krachen.

dankbar wrote:

I didn't go to Satmar but it seems like you are all remembering only the food & the authority.

nah... dont you see all the activities and cheers referenced too?

amother [ Cyan ] wrote:

A rocket ball? In my early days, rocket balls was not allowed. Mrs. Rosenberger, who stayed in the side of the alter shpielhaus (yes, I'm that old), would come in with a racketball and a scissors and show how she busted it.

Yup yup, in maneh tzahten!

amother [ OP ] wrote:

They did not. They did?? Why do I remember that they didn't?!

In my days the camps had different names. Started a few years after my times, the same name thing.

gamzehyaavor wrote:

I’m not breathiiiiiiing

I think a lot of gaffes are attributed to Mr. Kohn even if theyre not his. Sort of how all the jokes happened to Yankel Miller. Supposedly, this joke was told over at an ATIME event (Chaya Breindel Katina told it to Brany Rosen who was just a few days after a devastating stillbirth) that Mr. Kohn at an event with politiciant announced that everyone should give the politician a standing ovulation. I dont know if he really did that, but I think you could wipe the floor when Chaya Breindel told over the joke, bc we all just about wet ourselves.

↑ clowny ↓

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 9:12 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

Yup. Bunks 20 and 21 I think.

I was a counselor in bunk 6. Oy how I loved the counselors room.

I think it was 19 and 20

amother

Crimson

Thu, Oct 15 2020, 9:15 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

Omgggg I think my mom told me this story 🤣