Is their a Tzinous police ?

amother ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 4:29 am

My friend is a author of four books she told me their is one in Isreal
and I do not believe her is it true?

MrsLeo ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 4:46 am

There's a "tzinius police" in Kiryas Yoel (Monroe, NY). They call themselves the "Vaad Hatzinius".

↑ amother ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 4:51 am

what do they actually do?

if their is one in Israel what do they do?

↑ MrsLeo

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 5:21 am

As far as I know, the one in Kiryas Yoel makes sure that everyone is acting and dressing properly and if not they kick them out of the community or they kick their kids out of school or watever.
Sometimes they even take people to court.

chocolate moose ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 9:54 am

amother wrote:

My friend is a author of four books

Does being an author make her more "in the know"?

greenfire

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 9:58 am

perhaps the book is titled "Is there a Tznius Police?"

↑ amother ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 10:02 am

lol ! greenfire !

↑ amother ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 10:47 am

My friend wrote books on the following
borderline personality , toxic people , a book on self improvement
and how to win friends and influence people . I suggest chocolat mouse
you should read some .

mimivan ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 11:15 am

so, I wrote a book on women's health, does that make me an expert on haredi communities in Eretz Yisroel?

Mrs. XYZ ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 11:16 am

amother wrote:

My friend wrote books on the following
borderline personality , toxic people , a book on self improvement
and how to win friends and influence people . I suggest chocolat mouse
you should read some .

How disgusting! and a day after rosh hashana!?!? Rolling Eyes

↑ chocolate moose ↓

Sun, Sep 16 2007, 11:53 am

I know exactly who that poster is. She badmouths me anonymously all the time.

↑ amother ↓

Mon, Sep 17 2007, 1:40 pm

let us meet in the chat room and discuss this further BM.

miriamnechama ↓

Tue, Sep 18 2007, 7:48 am

yeah they are in isreal and it's gross. onece they called me up, I should have threatened them with the police. cus what is it their business who comes to me what I read etc. we also have vaad ichlus and they check you out before you can moveinto the town I think it;'s crazy and I hope the system will change. they claimed they had a complaint but refused to say who. I was told afterwards that it was some nutcase cus he nevercalled back. but there have been incidents by us.

↑ amother ↓

Thu, Sep 20 2007, 7:35 am

can men and women walk on the same sidewalk ?

↑ miriamnechama

Thu, Sep 20 2007, 7:53 am

amother yes bh it hasn't gotten to that or I would move out of my town but we have mehadrin busses ie men at the frount women at the back. and couples don't ususally sit together.

reminds me once in london, on the way to the airport dh and I got picked up firts and we sat in the frount. along came 2 israeli men and wanted us to move so they could sit there, my mom was like no sorry we have a plane to catch and leave it they had no choice but were noty so happy about it, well london is not makpid on that. and on the plane??....

Maya ↓

Thu, Sep 20 2007, 8:58 am

amother wrote:

can men and women walk on the same sidewalk ?

In Meah She'arim, there are signs asking the men and women to walk on different sides of the street, but noone really listens to them.

↑ amother ↓

Mon, Sep 24 2007, 3:09 pm

Perhaps some people in the U.S. prefer to act as tznius police:

Quote:

Kiryas Joel — A native of this Satmar Hasidic village, Toby Greenberg is not unfamiliar with the strict mores of her ultra-Orthodox community.

But she never expected to be persecuted for choosing to dress slightly differently.

Unlike most Kiryas Joel women, who wear long, dark dresses or skirts and simple blouses in public, Greenberg, 25, wears colorful shirts, wigs and denim skirts.

Greenberg and her husband, Yoel, awoke Tuesday morning to find the tires of their silver Chevy Impala slashed and white oil-based paint splashed on their new, black Mazda CX-7.

Written in white paint on the Mazda were Hebrew words that Greenberg interpreted in English as "get out" and "defiled person."

Just before this week's vandalism, Greenberg and her husband received several letters — one was hand-delivered by a Hasidic man.

The man told them that he and 24 other men have decided that the couple should leave Kiryas Joel immediately.

The couple at first suspected the attacks to be the work of Vaad Hatznius, the equivalent of a morality police group in the village.

But when Toby's family confronted members of the group, they denied responsibility for the acts, she said.

Still, Vaad Hatznius has been suspected of acting through other agents of the community to achieve its ends, she said.

Speaking with a reporter yesterday, Toby wore a bright pink Tommy Hilfiger long-sleeved shirt, a denim skirt with ruffles at the knees and a wig with a copper tint.

The couple at first thought about ignoring the threats, but changed their minds after their cars were vandalized.

"I want these people arrested," Toby said.

"I want them to pay for my damaged property and to pay for what they are putting my family through."

Professor Sam Heilman, an expert in Hasidic culture at the City University of New York, said Toby Greenberg's plight is not unusual given Kiryas Joel's suspiciousness of change, no matter how slight.

"The whole image she is projecting with her clothing is that of someone who's at home in the modern world, and there are many who are afraid of that in Kiryas Joel," he said.

http://www.recordonline.com/ap.....70320

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↑ amother ↓

Mon, Sep 24 2007, 3:37 pm

the last post should be deleted . Why spread this around? this topic
should be put in the private area , Any one on the web can read this.

Mom2Three ↓

Mon, Sep 24 2007, 3:42 pm

amother wrote:

the last post should be deleted . Why spread this around? this topic
should be put in the private area , Any one on the web can read this.

I agree.

TammyTammy ↓

Mon, Sep 24 2007, 3:49 pm

amother wrote:

the last post should be deleted . Why spread this around? this topic
should be put in the private area , Any one on the web can read this.

Anyone can already read it by viture of it being in the Record.

Tammy