Haven't been following the last 50 pages but just wanted to share this. A unique and free way of entertainment for the kids!
VIN News - Brooklyn, NY - A Borough Park camp found a unique way to both entertain its campers and provide a service to the community by offering free car washes the day after Tisha B'Av.
The Sanz Klausenberg Day Camp, located on 50th Street between 13th and 14th Avenue, arranged a full service car wash which was advertised on the Dee Voch Twitter account. While 50th Street, a bus route, could not be closed for the event, Simcha Bernath coordinator of Borough Park Shomrim arranged for the closure of 51st Street between 13th and 14th Avenue for the duration of the two hour event.
The car wash, whose water was supplied by block residents, consisted of six distinct stations, each manned by four campers ranging in age from eight to twelve. Each car had its tires and rims brushed, was sponged down and washed with soapy water and then sprayed down by hose wielding campers. A tent erected in the middle of the block was equipped with lawn sprinklers to thoroughly wash down each vehicle. Another group of campers towel dried the cars and at the final station, every driver was treated to the air freshener of their choice. An estimated one hundred cars took advantage of the car wash, which was held from 2 to 4 PM and was closely supervised by counselors at all times.
"This was a perfect activity after nine days of not being able to wash your car and definitely a first in Boro Park," said videographer Heshy Rubinstein in an interview with VIN News. "It was set up beautifully and the campers did an excellent job."
I was kidding about the camp. I don't really want him at the mall that much, or at all for that matter (he's too young for browsing young women's fashion shops) but it's harmless and cool, as you said. PLUS the boys all went via public transportation there and back on their own, which is a skill they will need in the future (they are suburban kids and used to being driven around, bussed to school, or walking in their own yishuv).
The next skill they have to learn, BTW, is hitchhiking but that comes at a later age.
My 17 yo did the backpacking thing this week with a group of about 40 kids. They slept on the beach at Kinar. I wish he had done it more often this summer - he and all the kids had a blast. They didn't have enough food the first night - the allotment was 2 slices of pizza per kid and they were hungry. Also, they didn't have too much stuff to take from home after the fast - I assume people's houses were empty, as mine was. So, they made lots of friends on the beach: other Bnai Akiva groups, families... and they even got food from their new friends, which was the whole point
Mall isn't just clothing stores you know. There are home center and office depot stores, there are domestica and other types of household stores, there are book stores, and magazine stores and pet stores as well. There are health food stores and there are jewelry stores and watch stores and linens and towels and electronic stories as well.
Are you saying that you cant find something to interest you in ANY of those places?
And you prefer CAMPING?
Well all except the bookstore. Certainly not clothing stores.
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You see what I mean? Had you spend more time with your mothers taking care of the house you would have found the beauty in a store like domestica with the gorgeous serving platters, fine thin wine glasses, beautiful china and the like.
You really don't know what you are talking about. We DID take care of the house, and china etc was important to my mom. But no, they aren't so important to me.
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Even CHAZAL saw the beauty in it and said that Keilim Naim and Bayis Naeh make a person have harchavas ha'daas!
So men should enjoy that too!
I would rather go camping, hiking in the woods or reading a book to going into a mall.
Even CHAZAL saw the beauty in it and said that Keilim Naim and Bayis Naeh make a person have harchavas ha'daas!
What if people don't have the money for it? (Or if they decide they'd rather have the harchavas daas from sending kids to camp than buying the new china...)
Even CHAZAL saw the beauty in it and said that Keilim Naim and Bayis Naeh make a person have harchavas ha'daas!
What if people don't have the money for it? (Or if they decide they'd rather have the harchavas daas from sending kids to camp than buying the new china...)
Ok, this is how my 6 year old fared yesterday without camp.
He got dressed and ate breakfast.
He went to bais medrash with his father and learned.
He helped assemble a crib.
He read books I took out of the library.
He ate lunch(es).
He went to mincha.
He rode his bike.
He had snack.
He matched up single socks for me for pay. (Our version of cutting toilet paper? )
Read books to his brother.
Ate supper.
Changed in pajamas and went back outside to play some more.
Went to bed sometime.
Hashem Yaazor I really like the matching socks business! What about finding LOST socks? For that I would pay too!
HR, sounds like you don't like feminine pursuits too much. To each their own.
As for not being able to afford fine china etc. I hear you fully and agree. But there is nothing wrong with having the "harchavas hadaas" of going into a beautifully laid out store and seeing the lovely displays and feasting your eyes on them and enjoying the ambiance.
but now HR is going to say "what ambiance? I like the smell of the great outdoors, not a perfumed room"!
(but admit that on the average more women in the western world would prefer a clean and beautiful and air conditioned mall to camping out in 100 degree weather in the great outdoors!!)
(but admit that on the average more women in the western world would prefer a clean and beautiful and air conditioned mall to camping out in 100 degree weather in the great outdoors!!)
Hey, I'm agreeing with FS! Wuzzup with dat??? After spending 40 years camping in the desert, I don't see the need for our people to do any more camping. YMMV, of course! And yes, I'm a mall-rat, despite the fact that I haaaaaate fine china, and would have more fun at the dentist's office having a deep-cleaning.
However, I admit readily to having read more than my share of Women's Day, Family Circle, McCall's, Good Housekeeping, Chatelaine, and even the infamous Burt Reynolds issue of Cosmo. I did a lot of crafts as a kid, from macrame to knitting to crocheting, and recreational cooking like orange scones for Sunday breakfast. These mags had crafts and recipes galore, and the stuff that wasn't relevant was just skimmed over. I never cared about which size mini-van was best for my non-existent family, and the 10 Positions weren't as interesting as the 10 Ways to Change Up Your Chocolate Chip Cookies.
As for which parent spends time with which kid, in my family of origin, it was based not so much on gender but on rapport. I had certain things in common with my father that my brother didn't, whereas he and my mom could spend many happy hours debating who was going to win the Stanley Cup, which left my father and I bored out of our skulls. As a parent, it was just me and my son, and we have many common interests that are rapport-based, in addition to interests that are so diverse that we may as well be speaking two different languages. I'm lucky, because I know that it is possible to have a kid who loves and respects me from the bottom of his heart, but doesn't have anything in common with me. For me it's all about teaching my son to be the best person he can be, and he's doing pretty okay! The gender stuff settles itself out, and and my womanhood is not diminished because I can assemble IKEA furniture while my brother cannot even change a light bulb.
Mall isn't just clothing stores you know. There are home center and office depot stores, there are domestica and other types of household stores, there are book stores, and magazine stores and pet stores as well. There are health food stores and there are jewelry stores and watch stores and linens and towels and electronic stories as well.
Are you saying that you cant find something to interest you in ANY of those places?
And you prefer CAMPING?
You see what I mean? Had you spend more time with your mothers taking care of the house you would have found the beauty in a store like domestica with the gorgeous serving platters, fine thin wine glasses, beautiful china and the like.
Even CHAZAL saw the beauty in it and said that Keilim Naim and Bayis Naeh make a person have harchavas ha'daas!
I'm with you. I'd prefer to browse the mall any day, especially the home accessory stores.
My kids, however.....even the girls would prefer to go camping. They love the mall, but they love camping even more. Too bad their parents aren't avid campers....you can't pay me enough to go.
but now HR is going to say "what ambiance? I like the smell of the great outdoors, not a perfumed room"!
(but admit that on the average more women in the western world would prefer a clean and beautiful and air conditioned mall to camping out in 100 degree weather in the great outdoors!!)
Perfume I like. But malls irritate me rather quickly. I do prefer the ocean, pine forests etc.
I would go for a bookstore, or a body shop type store, but all that wears rather quickly. Camping? I could do for a couple of weeks straight.
There isn't enough money in the world to pay me to camp out in the great outdoors. Now I like walking around and seeing the great outdoors and I even prefer most seeing it from inside a nice comfortable air conditioned car during the summer...
And as for domestica stores, I adore looking at the beautiful china and crystal! They truly make my eyes shine just from the beauty of it all!
Mall isn't just clothing stores you know. There are home center and office depot stores, there are domestica and other types of household stores, there are book stores, and magazine stores and pet stores as well. There are health food stores and there are jewelry stores and watch stores and linens and towels and electronic stories as well.
Are you saying that you cant find something to interest you in ANY of those places?
And you prefer CAMPING?
You see what I mean? Had you spend more time with your mothers taking care of the house you would have found the beauty in a store like domestica with the gorgeous serving platters, fine thin wine glasses, beautiful china and the like.
Even CHAZAL saw the beauty in it and said that Keilim Naim and Bayis Naeh make a person have harchavas ha'daas!
FS, you have got to be kidding. Have you never heard of girls, who are close to their mothers who just dont like the girly things but like the stereotypical boy things? You are stereotyping as well.
I remember a girl in my elementary school who loved collecting, wait for it now........screwdrivers in my life I would never have pegged her for that, but it was so. What is really wrong with that? Nothing.
Shabbat nothing is wrong with her liking or collecting screwdrivers but admit that it is a bit unusual for a girl.
And darko shel olam that unless she marries rich more chances than not that she will have to know how to take care of a Jewish household and do it nicely so that she has a gracious house, and that her husband has good food. Don't kid yourself that a way to a man's heart is NOT throught his stomach. It is a rare man who isn't happier after a good meal that his wife makes than he is beforehand.
And if they aren't rich, at least at the beginning she will have to know how to cook, to set a nice table etc. And chazal knew what they were saying with isha naah, bayis naeh, keilim naim etc.
Women set the tone in the house. Boruch Hashem.And thus they have to know the art of making a good home, a good meal, a calm home, a wonderful atmosphere. That usually comes from presenting their husband with a beautifully set table and a delicious meal. Makes them feel like kings and you then get treated like a queen and not like a "handywoman" or whatever.
It makes a big difference. At least in most marriages that I know of.
Shabbat nothing is wrong with her liking or collecting screwdrivers but admit that it is a bit unusual for a girl.
And darko shel olam that unless she marries rich more chances than not that she will have to know how to take care of a Jewish household and do it nicely so that she has a gracious house, and that her husband has good food. Don't kid yourself that a way to a man's heart is NOT throught his stomach. It is a rare man who isn't happier after a good meal that his wife makes than he is beforehand.
And if they aren't rich, at least at the beginning she will have to know how to cook, to set a nice table etc. And chazal knew what they were saying with isha naah, bayis naeh, keilim naim etc.
Women set the tone in the house. Boruch Hashem.And thus they have to know the art of making a good home, a good meal, a calm home, a wonderful atmosphere. That usually comes from presenting their husband with a beautifully set table and a delicious meal. Makes them feel like kings and you then get treated like a queen and not like a "handywoman" or whatever.
It makes a big difference. At least in most marriages that I know of.
FS, there are many girls out there who, as the saying goes, wing it, for the beginning of the marriage. I had a friend in high school who was not allowed into the kitchen during her childhood. That was the way the mother wanted it. She is now a married gal for quite some time and nobody is starving and she has learned how to do things as time goes by.
My mother and father always like to remember how my mother somehow burned soup one of the first shabbatot they were married. Of course my mother saw how my grandmother made soup (gosh, it was my mother's job to bring home the chicken and defeather it in the sink) but she still goofed up. It can happen.
Other than knowing how to make some basics in the food department, I think most things can be learned as the marriage progresses. Who NEEDS to know how to set a table nicely? Children see these things as they grow up? They dont have to be taught it.
Shabbat you may see it but not integrate it.
There are things one is taught, especially before marriage.
It's like someone who sits in a car on a certain route 1000 times but only when they are at the point where they are driving that route do they actually learn it.
And I don't see anything funny or endearing about "winging it".
I think that a husband who has a delicious meal ready for him and a beautifully set table is very happy about it and I think that it can set the tone for something really lovely in marriage.
Doesn't every woman worth her salt as a woman also want to be a halfway decent balabusta?
Shabbat you may see it but not integrate it.
There are things one is taught, especially before marriage.
It's like someone who sits in a car on a certain route 1000 times but only when they are at the point where they are driving that route do they actually learn it.
And I don't see anything funny or endearing about "winging it".
I think that a husband who has a delicious meal ready for him and a beautifully set table is very happy about it and I think that it can set the tone for something really lovely in marriage.
Doesn't every woman worth her salt as a woman also want to be a halfway decent balabusta?
Of course every woman wants to be a decent balabusta, but first of all, that definitely means different things to different men and sometimes winging it can be a bonding experience. I know that I always knew how to cook (just from watching my mother. As I only left home at 23, I did cook some as I got older, but not a lot) but I remember very clearly that right in the beginning of our marriage, but husband and I spent a LOT of time together in the kitchen (and he was learning in a kollel then and still made the time) it was fun for both of us to have that time learning about what the other did know and what we didnt know.
What is one "taught" before marriage as opposed to watching a parent and then knowing how to do something?
