daavening for adoptee, question

↑ Ruchel ↓

Thu, Aug 03 2006, 3:40 pm

BrachaVHatzlocha wrote:

Ruchel wrote:

What about the child of a Jewish dad and a non Jewish mother who was converted? Do the laws above apply? ^
What if the mother also converts after birth, does it change anything?

If the mother isn't Jewish, the child isn't Jewish. If she coverts before birth (or conceptioN??), the child is Jewish. If he converts after the child is born, the child must convert himself.

Yes, I meant the child is converted at birth, and the mother later.

He*Sings*To*Me

Sun, Aug 06 2006, 6:41 pm

If a child born by a non-Jewish mother is civilly adopted by Jewishly-born parents, don't they have to toivel the child for that child to be considered Jewish? And, that if the child was never "dunked", that the child can be raised a Jew and still not be considered a Jew? I am asking because I know of a situation (they're reform, though) where this is the case.
If the child has been converted by immersion in the mikvah, wouldn't the adoptive mother's name then be used? (Having broken from the USCJ, I'm not as astute on Orthodox matters as many of my "sisters" on here who've been Frum From Birth.) Please enlighten me with sources so I might pursue this interesting subject further on my own.

↑ Ruchel

Sun, Aug 06 2006, 6:52 pm

Here's the few things I know:

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If a child born by a non-Jewish mother is civilly adopted by Jewishly-born parents, don't they have to toivel the child for that child to be considered Jewish?

Yes.

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And, that if the child was never "dunked", that the child can be raised a Jew and still not be considered a Jew?

Yes, that's a problem for many reform families unfortunately, where the child is not converted, or converted reform.

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If the child has been converted by immersion in the mikvah, wouldn't the adoptive mother's name then be used?

Maybe because a convert is the child of Avraham Avinu & Sarah Imeinu and not even called by the name of the Jewish father if there is one, for example. Although for example R' Feinstein gives the authorization to use the name of the Jewish father or adoptive parents... it is not widely accepted though.