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Motek
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Sun, Jun 25 2006, 9:31 pm
I was made aware that sometimes people (whether modern, chasidish or neither) make their peyos way too short which entails transgressing a Biblical prohibition!
With men who have sideburns, they can't shave them so close to the skin! There must be 40 hairs that can be bent back on themselves.
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Tefila
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Sun, Jun 25 2006, 9:55 pm
Quote: | There must be 40 hairs that can be bent back on themselves. |
How would one know where to cut then I mean whose counting
And I thought to the ear lobe was the minimum
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Crayon210
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Sun, Jun 25 2006, 9:58 pm
The earlobe? I thought it was that bone about an inch from the top of the ear.
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carrot
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Mon, Jun 26 2006, 7:28 am
Interesting. I just happened to read yesterday a source (which I don't think was Halacha l'maasa but interesting anyway) that the prohibition of Peyos is the same as teh beard, and just like the beard can be cut but not shaved (according to some) so too the Peyos.
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queen
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Mon, Jun 26 2006, 8:09 am
Crayon210 wrote: | The earlobe? I thought it was that bone about an inch from the top of the ear. |
thought so too
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brooklyn
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Mon, Jun 26 2006, 8:18 am
DH and DS have it at the cheekbone level.
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chocolate moose
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Mon, Jun 26 2006, 10:32 am
I have no idea, I left that up to them!
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Tefila
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Mon, Jun 26 2006, 11:25 am
Quote: | The earlobe? I thought it was that bone about an inch from the top of the ear. |
I thought that was called the ear lobe till my youngest son informed me it's not, and showed me where the ear lobe actually is
So u r right crayon though my kids do have it abit longer then that
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Motek
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 3:13 pm
brooklyn wrote: | DH and DS have it at the cheekbone level. |
It can be down to their chins but if it's cut/shaved too close, then it violates a biblical law!
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 3:16 pm
motek why is it your business to bring this up, isn't it up to our husbands not us where their payos are up to?
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Motek
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 3:28 pm
Have you seen the "Do you give your husbands a haircut" thread and poll?
It's certainly the business of those wives who cut their husband's and son's hair to know what they're doing!
And you know what? It's also good to know if you take your son(s) to the barber shop.
It's a halacha and it's good to know.
My husband just met someone who had a fresh haircut who obviously was unaware of this halacha because his sideburns were shaved extremely close to the face. The more of us who know the halacha, the less likely people will inadvertently transgress it.
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Mommy912
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 6:09 pm
And sometimes it is the mothers taking the little boys to the barber.
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Motek
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 6:17 pm
Mommy912 wrote: | And sometimes it is the mothers taking the little boys to the barber. |
read previous post
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Mommy912
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 6:21 pm
I know you said the same thing - I just couldn't pass up the chance to finally AGREE with you
(also I was checking to see if you really read each post)
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ChavieK
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 6:23 pm
I also take bigger boys sometimes. One of mine was so shy that I had to go & show them the bone (ds wanted short sideburns then) Although they usualy know if you go to a place that do a lot of frum pple. You still have to watch. My little boys like their payos, dh has a little past the bone, bigger ds has chasidish payos.
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Motek
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Tue, Jun 27 2006, 6:26 pm
Mommy912 wrote: | I know you said the same thing - I just couldn't pass up the chance to finally AGREE with you
(also I was checking to see if you really read each post) |
Now you know!
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brooklyn
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Wed, Jun 28 2006, 11:06 am
Motek wrote: | brooklyn wrote: | DH and DS have it at the cheekbone level. |
It can be down to their chins but if it's cut/shaved too close, then it violates a biblical law! |
DH went to very well respected yeshiva in Brooklyn and he was taught that they cannot be cut shorter that the cheekbone. That is the cut off point so to speak, no pun intended. Other that that down to your pupick or down to your toes, your business, doesn't make you a better jew.
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Lechatchila Ariber
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Sun, May 27 2007, 9:03 am
Motek wrote: | brooklyn wrote: | DH and DS have it at the cheekbone level. |
It can be down to their chins but if it's cut/shaved too close, then it violates a biblical law! |
I heard that according to kabala it can't be too long that the peyos mix with the beard, which is why lubavitch don't have long peyos like other chassidim do.
I'll try and enquire more about that.
(ok I know you were refering to the point about it not being shaved too close and too true, but just thought it would be interesting to point out why lubavitch are different then most other chassidim in that respect)
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greenfire
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Sun, May 27 2007, 9:48 am
my ds has had many levels ... long behind his ears and short at the side ... machine cut ... do the research halachicly ...
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Lechatchila Ariber
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Sun, May 27 2007, 10:34 am
I didn't say it was halacha
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