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Seraph ↓

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 1:53 pm

I always always overcook my boiled gefilte fish loaf, and it ends up gross and water logged.
How long should I cook a frozen gefilte fish loaf?
If I want to make a gel to go with it, if I have a fish head that came with it for that purpose, how much water should I use, what amount of sugar, salt, onion, and carrot should I put in? Anything else?

chocolate moose

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:00 pm

I find the longer it cooks the better. Leave it wrapped in the paper so it doesn't get watery.

↑ Seraph ↓

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:02 pm

chocolate moose wrote:

I find the longer it cooks the better. Leave it wrapped in the paper so it doesn't get watery.

I did, and it got sooooooo water logged even so.

Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:03 pm

I don't do gel, but I bake it. Put it unwrapped in a greased loaf pan with enough water to cover the bottom. Spice, add onions if desired, cover, and bake for around an hour and a half.

(Last week I made it with tomato sauce and served it warm and it was a hit with the boychiks.)

jzmom

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:04 pm

Mine also gets water logged so I bake it instead. I use a couple of squirts of ketchup and enough tomato sauce to cover, 350 for 1.5 to 2 hours covered.

↑ Seraph

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:06 pm

I want boiled gefilte fish. I know how to bake it, I want boiled. I have a fish head in the freezer meant for making the jelly, I am in the mood for jelly and want to get the fish head out of there as well...

Mrs.K

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:15 pm

I boil mine in a pot with spices and carrots for 2 hours in the paper. Never had a waterlogged fish.

Starhavah

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:18 pm

I boil mine for an hour an it is never waterlogged.

cookielady

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:20 pm

When I boil it, I find the trick is to get it out of the water once it's done so it doesn't get water logged. I boil it around 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

babygirl

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:23 pm

I cook mine for an hour and a half with a cup of sugar a half a carrot and an onion I also put garlic powder and salt on top. I put it in the smallest pot it fits in and fill enough water to cover half....Enjoy!

Roche ↓

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 2:29 pm

interesting, I never heard anyone say they were "in the mood" for fish jelly. I guess everyone has different tastebuds... Speechless

↑ Hashem_Yaazor

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 3:14 pm

(And some people are pregnant Tongue Out

)

Twizzlers

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 8:22 pm

I cook for an hour and a half. I think the waterlogging happens if you leave it in the water for a while after its finished cooking. as soon as its finished, I drain the water immediately, and I havent had any waterlogged problems.

BZBEE

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 8:40 pm

The following is the recipe I use. I cook it with regular salmon put very closely to each other, and the sauce becomes jelly(ish).
To make real jelly you can order plain pike skin, roll it up, and put it in while cooking,
1 cup sugar (I usually use less)
2 tbspn salt
Black pepper
Onion
Carrots
6 cup water
Bring to boil
Lower flame and cook for 1 hour
enjoy!

↑ Roche

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 10:02 pm

Hashem_Yaazor wrote:

(And some people are pregnant Tongue Out

)

ok so how about some pickles with that fish jelly Puke

Tova

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 10:26 pm

Seraph, I'm sorry I can't help you with your question as I haven't boiled the loaves in years (never had luck with it).

I always bake.

My usual is similar to HY with the sauce.

I let the loaf defrost a good way so I can put it into a loaf pan (perfect size - I use a pyrex loaf) and let it take the shape of the pan. So it has squared ends and no "small piece ends." Of course spray the pan well.

I then put marinara sauce on top and then chopped onions and green pepper. The color contrast is nice and this always gets good reviews.

Sometimes if I want to be cute I do the same, but make them into "muffins." I found disposable muffin tins and do the same - spray well, add the defrosted fish, etc. Comes out very nice and a different way of serving gefila fish. Once we had company with a lot of young children and I got creative - I made the fish muffins half-height and with no veggies. I then put 2 per plate, one kept whole and the other I cut a small triangle out of...put the pieces together and you have a fish! [Can you picture it?] My son gobbled up the "scraps" as I was assembling them. I then took a squirt bottle of wasabi sauce and added an eye and mouth. Place on lettuce ocean. Oh, did those kids eat up every bit of their fish!

mummiedearest

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 11:16 pm

the trick is not how long to cook it. the trick is to remove the fish from the water as soon as you turn off the flame. the longer it sits in the cooling water, the more watery it is. that being said, I cook mine for an hour. I don't add anything other than water, and I don't bring the water to a boil first. so an hour from the time I put it on the flame.

flowerpower

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 11:19 pm

Mine is almost likes bz's.

Bout 8 cuts water(I have a big pot)
two whole carrots
one big onion sliced
salt
black pepper
2 pike skins
3/4 c or even less sugar

Let the water come to a boil and add the loaf and pike skin. After an hour remove the parchment paper and cook an additional half hour. Uncover and let cool a little.

Mimisinger

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 11:31 pm

DOn't know fish jelly (B"H), but as others said, take the fish out immediately - I just boil until it's done, over an hour. Also, make sure it goes directly from the freezer into boiling water. Don't let it defrost first, and make sure the water is boiling... That should do it.

You can also put it in a pan in the oven, covered with some boiled water in the bottom - it will steam and be exactly like boiled fish. Again, make sure to drain the water immediately.

Falafel

Wed, Jul 08 2009, 11:34 pm

cookielady wrote:

When I boil it, I find the trick is to get it out of the water once it's done so it doesn't get water logged. I boil it around 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

I noticed this works best, take it out almost as soon as it's done cooking, unwrap it and put it into an empty container.

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