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Posted: Sat, Oct 31 2009, 4:35 pm Post subject: Who is responsible? |
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For those of you who work from home... how do you get the money from your boss? I currently work rom home (B"H) and up until now my boss has sent the money with someone who lives in my neighborhood who was so kind and even dropped it off by my apartment... lately though this deliverer has dropped off the planet. My boss send the money and I call and go by, literally stalking him and it takes me 3 weeks to get the money! I don't work for fun, if you know what I mean... So who is responsible here. Is it my boss, as he has to make sure I get the money so he has to find another way of getting it to me or am I responsible to figure out a way? _________________ The will of G-d will never lead you where the grace of G-d will not protect you.
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Of course he's responsible! Where/ when do we live? I seem to remember there are things like the postal service, bank transfers, couriers etc. _________________ "The problem begins with... their political hangers oners... such as Anat Hoffman. She is a davener like I am a chinese belly dancer." (FS)
Professional Hebrew>English translations - pm me for details.
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Posted: Sat, Oct 31 2009, 4:46 pm Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| True, but he does make the effort to send the money with this guy... Is it his problem I can never get through to them?! I mentioned it to him and he basically said well what else doyou want to do, as if it was my responsibility...
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Posted: Sat, Oct 31 2009, 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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What do you mean 'he makes an effort'? He has to pay you - tell him this is a bad arrangement for you and you want him to either send you a cheque or pay it into your bank account.
I work as a freelancer. I most certainly do not go and collect my payment from each client - everyone sends me the money either by cash or bank transfer, or occasionally has brought/ sent the money in cash.
I used to work for the Israeli Ministry of Education. Do you think I got paid by travelling to Tel Aviv each month to collect my money?
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 12:29 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| can you set up automatic deposit? no headache there. I log in on the 15th of the month and my commissions are in my business checking acct.
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 2:54 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| What about paypal?
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 4:20 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| Thanks for the suggestions but I'm off the books in Israel and paypal takes a commission... But I am happy to hear that it is his responsibility... so now I am more confident in saying something, let him send it in a cab for all I care.... It's crazy that I have to wait an extra 3 weeks to get paid!
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 4:34 am Post subject: |
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My first suggestion is to get ON THE BOOKS. As long as you're "illegal" (yes, that's what it is) it's easier for him to jerk you around. _________________ Emmanuel Tzvi: 26 Shevat 5766
Shai Michael: 8 Cheshvan 5768
Yitzchak Meir: 19 Iyar 5770
Dvir Aharon: 10 Tammuz 5772
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 4:42 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| Thanks for your opinion
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 4:44 am Post subject: Re: re: Who is responsible? |
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| drez wrote: | | Thanks for the suggestions but I'm off the books in Israel and paypal takes a commission... But I am happy to hear that it is his responsibility... so now I am more confident in saying something, let him send it in a cab for all I care.... It's crazy that I have to wait an extra 3 weeks to get paid! |
It's his responsibility within reason - he can mail you a check. He's not obligated to send it in a cab or find a courier.
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 5:06 am Post subject: Re: re: Who is responsible? |
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| merelyme wrote: | | drez wrote: | | Thanks for the suggestions but I'm off the books in Israel and paypal takes a commission... But I am happy to hear that it is his responsibility... so now I am more confident in saying something, let him send it in a cab for all I care.... It's crazy that I have to wait an extra 3 weeks to get paid! |
It's his responsibility within reason - he can mail you a check. He's not obligated to send it in a cab or find a courier. |
Yes, this changes it. Who wants it off the books? Let's say he is prepared to mail you a check, but you want it in cash - I think that's now your problem.
As Marion says, watch out! Not just from the authorities, but also once you are illegally working you basically have no rights at all, because you have no one to complain to.
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 5:10 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| no he is a really nice guy, not out to cause me problems... the company is based in the US so I could technically go on the books there...
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| The company I work for is also in America. The direct deposit is into my American bank account. I am legal in America and file American taxes independently.
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 9:25 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| al pi halachah, he is responsible to pay you on time. Getting it to you may be you resposibility. Perhaps you should arrange someone else to bring it to you.
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 9:39 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| Quote: | | My first suggestion is to get ON THE BOOKS. As long as you're "illegal" (yes, that's what it is) it's easier for him to jerk you around. |
on the books and still have this problem -- till people send what is owed.
I need a collection agency...
and you know unfortunately I see even with frum - people forget and don't care about the halacha of paying on time. - it really bothers me how much I can be taken advantage of.
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| e1234 wrote: | | Quote: | | My first suggestion is to get ON THE BOOKS. As long as you're "illegal" (yes, that's what it is) it's easier for him to jerk you around. |
on the books and still have this problem -- till people send what is owed.
I need a collection agency...
and you know unfortunately I see even with frum - people forget and don't care about the halacha of paying on time. - it really bothers me how much I can be taken advantage of. |
But you're a freelancer, not an employee. Unfortunately, people see in that a "heter" to pay when they can. (I'm not saying it's right, just that the circumstances are not the same.)
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 11:06 am Post subject: re: Who is responsible? |
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| when I was a babysitter, most people paid me on time, but a few paid me late and sometimes more than 1 week late.
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Posted: Sun, Nov 01 2009, 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| My checks are mailed to me, but if you're paid in cash that won't work...not sure who is responsible to figure it out in this case; there aren't many options when you're dealing with cash payments.
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